Police Can’t Be Bothered - Again
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Three years ago a car driver skidded on ice, hit the front of our house and drove off. I had a witness, cctv and the make, model & registration number of the vehicle. Essex police gave me a crime number but that was all they were prepared to do. I tracked the culprit down myself with some help from PH.
Last week my cctv caught the incident below which was highly dangerous especially as the car mounted the pavement before hitting the house. The homeowner has reported the incident online as nobody from Essex police will speak with him. Apparently they’ll be taking a look within 28 days and ‘may’ get back to him.
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Last week my cctv caught the incident below which was highly dangerous especially as the car mounted the pavement before hitting the house. The homeowner has reported the incident online as nobody from Essex police will speak with him. Apparently they’ll be taking a look within 28 days and ‘may’ get back to him.
Tap photo for video.
Edited by bad company on Saturday 19th December 10:28
Glenn63 said:
There to busy sitting in pubs checking people are the correct distance apart. With that evidence can you not send it to your house insurance and get them to claim off the drivers insurance?
That’s what I did when it was my house hit. That driver needs dealing with though, we think he’s a druggie.Just to be clear - the same car, but years apart?
In any event, the latest one is but a step away from killing someone, most likely a pedestrian. And if the driver had addiction problems it's. asap truth, but they will get into a car again in the same state.
Police don't get many bouquets for investing time before the 'big one'.
Far easier to say after the event, the 'big one' that gets the publicity "Lessons will be learned"
In any event, the latest one is but a step away from killing someone, most likely a pedestrian. And if the driver had addiction problems it's. asap truth, but they will get into a car again in the same state.
Police don't get many bouquets for investing time before the 'big one'.
Far easier to say after the event, the 'big one' that gets the publicity "Lessons will be learned"
kevinon said:
Police don't get many bouquets for investing time before the 'big one'.
Far easier to say after the event, the 'big one' that gets the publicity "Lessons will be learned"
Yeah, they'd much rather spend 50x the time / resources / money on an unnatural death investigation. Far easier to say after the event, the 'big one' that gets the publicity "Lessons will be learned"
La Liga said:
eah, they'd much rather spend 50x the time / resources / money on an unnatural death investigation.
It's easy enough to work out why the police no longer prioritise matters which are covered by insurance. You can’t slash budgets and expect a higher level of service than before.
I’m not excusing GMP’s failure to deal effectively with crime reporting, but look how their budget changes since 2010 have affected their staffing levels. Remember that a non-warrant-holding member of staff being sacked or not having their contract renewed means that a police officer has to do their job as well as their own. Remember too that demands have increased, and continue to do so, year on year.
The logic in not dealing with matters where loss is covered by insurance is, well, logical.
There’s a much-needed review of police responsibilities required. One of the matters that would be looked at critically is police responsibility for traffic management. It doesn’t need a warrant. There are any number of other matters that the police deal with because there’s no one else, or they are so poorly funded that they can’t cope.
The police’s main role in terms of time and investment seems to be as long stop.
SlackBladder said:
How on earth did he do it?
Doesn't look to be speeding, but goes round the corner and continues to drives on the wrong side of the road.
My guess is foreign and drunk.
Oh come on, keep up, we're in the 21st century. FacetDoesn't look to be speeding, but goes round the corner and continues to drives on the wrong side of the road.
My guess is foreign and drunk.
t is far more important than looking where you're going.If I were you I'd be on to the local council about traffic calming measures for that section of the road.
Two similar incidents in a few years suggests that drivers need extra cues to slow down around that corner.
Even if the Police were to investigate this and get a conviction against the driver, it will do little to prevent another incident.
Two similar incidents in a few years suggests that drivers need extra cues to slow down around that corner.
Even if the Police were to investigate this and get a conviction against the driver, it will do little to prevent another incident.
bad company said:
I have the registration number from another camera. I’ve identified the car and that it’s both taxed and insured. Just peed off with the police.
No doubt plod will be asking me to help with information from my cameras in the future. Will I do so?
So you're complaining about the police not investigating crimes, but you are now not willing to help when needed?No doubt plod will be asking me to help with information from my cameras in the future. Will I do so?
kevinon said:
Just to be clear - the same car, but years apart?
In any event, the latest one is but a step away from killing someone, most likely a pedestrian. And if the driver had addiction problems it's. asap truth, but they will get into a car again in the same state.
Police don't get many bouquets for investing time before the 'big one'.
Far easier to say after the event, the 'big one' that gets the publicity "Lessons will be learned"
Years apart:-In any event, the latest one is but a step away from killing someone, most likely a pedestrian. And if the driver had addiction problems it's. asap truth, but they will get into a car again in the same state.
Police don't get many bouquets for investing time before the 'big one'.
Far easier to say after the event, the 'big one' that gets the publicity "Lessons will be learned"
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DoubleD said:
bad company said:
I have the registration number from another camera. I’ve identified the car and that it’s both taxed and insured. Just peed off with the police.
No doubt plod will be asking me to help with information from my cameras in the future. Will I do so?
So you're complaining about the police not investigating crimes, but you are now not willing to help when needed?No doubt plod will be asking me to help with information from my cameras in the future. Will I do so?
Hmmmm......Looks like a fresh bit of tarmac on that bend (lines at the sides of the road, but no centre lines) - It also looks as though it might be damp too. 
New tarmac needs a while to "bed in", and can be quite slippery, even when dry. Add in a bit of damp, and it can be treacherous!
I've looked at the footage frame by frame, up to the point just after the car strikes house, and my take on the whole event is:
The driver has come into the bend too fast, and has been caught out by the lack of grip on the new tarmac:
The driver has tried to turn the corner, and has found the car ploughing straight on with chronic understeer, towards the pub:
The driver has realised they're not going to hit the pub, but the car is still running wide. The hope at this stage is to aim for the side road next to the house, and turn away from the house before hitting it:
The driver is now hoping/praying that the car will turn away from the house before hitting it (It actually looks as though the driver straightened up slightly, possibly hoping to get the steering back a bit) :
The car hasn't turned away in time, and has made a glancing blow against the house:
The driver has then travelled past the house (on the wrong side of the road), probably a bit dazed/shook up by what's happened.
Within a few seconds they've glanced back, seen the house is still standing, thought they'd "got away with it", as no one seemed to be around, and decided to drive off.
Watching the footage, it appears the brake lights are on before the car starts to understeer towards the pub, and the brake lights appear to stay on throughout the incident.
As far as the Police will be concerned, it a non-injury incident, with minor damage to private property, so it's hardly likely to jump straight to the top of their priority list, for immediate investigation.
New tarmac needs a while to "bed in", and can be quite slippery, even when dry. Add in a bit of damp, and it can be treacherous!
I've looked at the footage frame by frame, up to the point just after the car strikes house, and my take on the whole event is:
The driver has come into the bend too fast, and has been caught out by the lack of grip on the new tarmac:
The driver has tried to turn the corner, and has found the car ploughing straight on with chronic understeer, towards the pub:
The driver has realised they're not going to hit the pub, but the car is still running wide. The hope at this stage is to aim for the side road next to the house, and turn away from the house before hitting it:
The driver is now hoping/praying that the car will turn away from the house before hitting it (It actually looks as though the driver straightened up slightly, possibly hoping to get the steering back a bit) :
The car hasn't turned away in time, and has made a glancing blow against the house:
The driver has then travelled past the house (on the wrong side of the road), probably a bit dazed/shook up by what's happened.
Within a few seconds they've glanced back, seen the house is still standing, thought they'd "got away with it", as no one seemed to be around, and decided to drive off.
Watching the footage, it appears the brake lights are on before the car starts to understeer towards the pub, and the brake lights appear to stay on throughout the incident.
As far as the Police will be concerned, it a non-injury incident, with minor damage to private property, so it's hardly likely to jump straight to the top of their priority list, for immediate investigation.
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