Social media platforms & posts by Firearm owners
Social media platforms & posts by Firearm owners
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gooner1

Original Poster:

10,223 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Do the former above have a care of duty to inform the relevant authorities of posts made by the latter that are ,or appear to be of,
a worrying nature.?

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Ja, papiere bitte.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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That's for the courts to decide, surely? I think you mean "duty of care though".

Who's posts are you concerned about? If it's a UK resident then make an anonymous report to their local firearms licensing department.

Edit; are these "worrying" posts worrying because you think there is a firearms or public safety issue or is it just someone who happens to have firearms but he has wacko conspiracy issues about Covid, 5G, and you've decided it means he'll shoot the street up?

Edited by AJL308 on Wednesday 23 December 18:05


Edited by AJL308 on Wednesday 23 December 18:07

normalbloke

8,862 posts

248 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Similar but not quite, I’ve never understood the ‘GUN’ number plate mindset either.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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AJL308 said:
I think you mean "duty of care though".

Who's posts are you concerned about?
I think you mean 'whose', though :-)

Digger

16,831 posts

220 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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280E said:
AJL308 said:
I think you mean "duty of care though".

Who's posts are you concerned about?
I think you mean 'whose', though :-)
Meant . . .

gooner1

Original Poster:

10,223 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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AJL308 said:
That's for the courts to decide, surely? I think you mean "duty of care though".

Who's posts are you concerned about? If it's a UK resident then make an anonymous report to their local firearms licensing department.

Edit; are these "worrying" posts worrying because you think there is a firearms or public safety issue or is it just someone who happens to have firearms but he has wacko conspiracy issues about Covid, 5G, and you've decided it means he'll shoot the street up?

Edited by AJL308 on Wednesday 23 December 18:05


Edited by AJL308 on Wednesday 23 December 18:07
I’m not worried at all and I’m asking about a hypothetical situation.




Greendubber

15,263 posts

232 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gooner1 said:

Do the former above have a care of duty to inform the relevant authorities of posts made by the latter that are ,or appear to be of,
a worrying nature.?
Such as?

Waving it at people, saying they want to go on a shooting spree, that they're going to off themselves?

Need a little more context really.

gooner1

Original Poster:

10,223 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Jasandjules said:
Ja, papiere bitte.
Nein papiere. Ich bien ein inselaffe.

gooner1

Original Poster:

10,223 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Greendubber said:
Such as?

Waving it at people, saying they want to go on a shooting spree, that they're going to off themselves?

Need a little more context really.
Well let’s take your three scenarios as examples.

unident

6,702 posts

80 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gooner1 said:
Greendubber said:
Such as?

Waving it at people, saying they want to go on a shooting spree, that they're going to off themselves?

Need a little more context really.
Well let’s take your three scenarios as examples.
Are you asking if Facebook should be reporting it to the police?

If it’s either him threatening people or himself, then why don’t you do it?

If it’s just posting conspiracy wibble, then leave them to it, the worlds full of idiots.

rxe

6,700 posts

132 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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I’ve once reported someone for worrisome gun related commentary. My son, while walking the dog about 30 yards in front of us encountered a grumpy bloke who threatened to shoot all of us before turning on his heel back to his house. He didn’t like the dog barking. He wasn’t armed. I reported him on the basis that he might actually have a shotgun cert, and it would be a bit depressing if we were the last people he talked to before going postal. Turned out he didn’t have a cert, didn’t have a shotgun, and was just a tt (paraphrasing the response from plod).

I’ve never seen anything remotely worrying on social media. I’ve seen a lot of incorrect stuff (you can/can’t do X), but nothing really worrying.

Greendubber

15,263 posts

232 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gooner1 said:
Greendubber said:
Such as?

Waving it at people, saying they want to go on a shooting spree, that they're going to off themselves?

Need a little more context really.
Well let’s take your three scenarios as examples.
I doubt any social media platforms would report anything to be honest.

Is there something you've seen, if its bothering you just do it yourself?

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gooner1 said:
Jasandjules said:
Ja, papiere bitte.
Nein papiere. Ich bien ein inselaffe.
Then no, we have no "duty" as such to the world at large. If someone is posting up on facebook they are going to hunt you down and shoot you then perhaps consider whether or not they are just a Walt.

Really it is hard to say without knowing a lot more. For example, if you are a drug dealer and then someone has threatened to shoot you for selling them some bad s**t, well firstly you would need to be careful and secondly reporting it to the police may be somewhat counterproductive (please note I give a real world example of a genius criminal there!)

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

290 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gooner1 said:
Jasandjules said:
Ja, papiere bitte.
Nein papiere. Ich bien ein inselaffe.
,,,,,,,und Stolz darauf.

gooner1

Original Poster:

10,223 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
gooner1 said:
Jasandjules said:
Ja, papiere bitte.
Nein papiere. Ich bien ein inselaffe.
,,,,,,,und Stolz darauf.
Ja. Why wouldn’t I be? biggrin

vaud

59,402 posts

184 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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If you think there is an imminent threat to life / someone is about to hold up a bank then report it.

Otherwise it is down to your moral compass and context?

gooner1

Original Poster:

10,223 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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vaud said:
If you think there is an imminent threat to life / someone is about to hold up a bank then report it.

Otherwise it is down to your moral compass and context?
I repeat I’m posing a question on hypothetical scenarios.

Taking yours as an example Vaud, if such a post came to light and it was deleted by the moderators on whatever social media platform hosted it , before it became general knowledge. Does that platform have a duty to report it, even if they were unsure of the validity of the post? And would /could there be legal repercussions for that platform if the post was actually enacted but no report was made?

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Why Tf would they delay the post but not report it?

gooner1

Original Poster:

10,223 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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AJL308 said:
Why Tf would they delay the post but not report it?
Did you mean Why Tf would they delete the post but not report it?.

Well because in the scenario I’ve described ,the deleted post wasn’t deemed to be a genuine risk.