Contesting a Will
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Spydaman

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1,660 posts

287 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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My Wife's Mother has days or weeks to live. My wife has two older sisters, one who lives half an hour away the other 2 or 3 hours and we live ten minutes away. MiL has been in remission from lung cancer for the last 18 years where my Wife supported her through treatment and when her Father became ill and died and again when her new partner also became ill and died. Her older sister fell out with her Mother for 10 years where they didn't speak. Mrs S has been told that everything has been left to her in the will but her sisters haven't been told. Her older sister will almost certainly contest the will. Where do we stand?

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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A human being is dying and all you can think about is that human's money. Very charming!

Go and pay for some legal advice, you cheapskate.

NDA

25,614 posts

254 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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I am not a lawyer.

Do you have a copy of the will (I assume not)? When was it written (I assume she was of sound mind)? Was it prepared by her solicitor? Who is the Executor? On what basis might they contest? Is there a power of attorney in force?

I am not sure who 'defends' the validity of a will, the solicitor who prepared it? I guess you have to wait and see if they do contest.

paul.deitch

2,315 posts

286 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Well said. In response to BV

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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NDA said:
I am not a lawyer.

Do you have a copy of the will (I assume not)? When was it written (I assume she was of sound mind)? Was it prepared by her solicitor? Who is the Executor? On what basis might they contest? Is there a power of attorney in force?

I am not sure who 'defends' the validity of a will, the solicitor who prepared it? I guess you have to wait and see if they do contest.
Hey OP, this is an example of what you get by being a venal chiseller who seeks free legal advice from a car forum. Quality stuff, eh?

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Spydaman said:
My Wife's Mother has days or weeks to live. My wife has two older sisters, one who lives half an hour away the other 2 or 3 hours and we live ten minutes away. MiL has been in remission from lung cancer for the last 18 years where my Wife supported her through treatment and when her Father became ill and died and again when her new partner also became ill and died. Her older sister fell out with her Mother for 10 years where they didn't speak. Mrs S has been told that everything has been left to her in the will but her sisters haven't been told. Her older sister will almost certainly contest the will. Where do we stand?
Writes a loving son in law.

Taita

7,995 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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I think it's slightly unfair to jump on the OP, his missus could have asked him to do some research in advance of speaking to a lawyer etc.

There is also no indication that he isn't also interested in the wellbeing of his MIL, it's just not mentioned.

Try to see the best in people smile

handyman 1417

314 posts

215 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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The poor woman hasn’t died, the will hasn’t been read and the sisters haven’t contested it. Delete your post OP and support your family rather than embarrass yourself on here.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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One hopes the wife is completely oblivious to this thread and she tended to her mother out of the goodness of her heart rather than as some kind of macabre premium bond.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Taita said:
I think it's slightly unfair to jump on the OP, his missus could have asked him to do some research in advance of speaking to a lawyer etc.

There is also no indication that he isn't also interested in the wellbeing of his MIL, it's just not mentioned.

Try to see the best in people smile
I don’t think it’s even slightly unfair. If people are caring for their parents with one eye on a future payday they absolutely should be called out and vilified. Sadly, it’s not at all uncommon.

Sycamore

2,199 posts

147 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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I'm guessing the OP had another tab open with Autotrader up, and was just wondering what maximum price he should be setting in his searches.

megaphone

11,653 posts

280 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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OP. Ignore the other posters who have jumped on you, quite a good idea to know where you stand and get prepared.

Obviously you won't know the full detail until you have seen the will. As above, where is the will, with a solicitor? Who are listed as the executors of the will?

Sheepshanks

40,982 posts

148 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Sycamore said:
I'm guessing the OP had another tab open with Autotrader up, and was just wondering what maximum price he should be setting in his searches.
There was a "which car" thread a couple of years from someone anticipating his grandmother's demise.


OP: If the MIL still has a house, get over there pronto and change the locks.

Elderly people do like to string relatives along with false promises. It's likely she's left everything to her late partner's dole scum daughter "as you've all done well for yourselves.".

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Whisk her off to the bank while you still can so you can get her to make some withdrawals, and tell her its for home improvements or something. You don't want to miss the boat and risk it becoming out of reach.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Make sure you let her doctor know she's been very confused lately and that you should be recommended for Power of Attorney.

And make sure you start a Readers Rides thread thumbup

Arnie Cunningham

4,566 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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I've been through this. Without going in to the legalese of it all, the will is the will.

While it's not impossible, there are very few grounds to contest a will - and the ones there are are well documented in layman's speak
So as long as your MIL was of sound mind when she wrote it and it is correctly executed, there's little chance of it being overturned.

However, and this is advice to you and your wife particularly, never bank on what people tell you is in a will. Both my father and my grandmother told people they had left parts of their estate to various people - my father rewrote his will the day before he died and my grandmothers will was also quite different to what she'd said was in it to various people over the years.

My actual advice - forget about the will entirely and focus on making her last weeks/months/years as pleasant as possible. The last memories your wife will have with her mother are worth more than the £.

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Spydaman said:
Mrs S has been told that everything has been left to her in the will but her sisters haven't been told. Her older sister will almost certainly contest the will. Where do we stand?
I suggest you stand as far away from your wife's family as possible when they find out !

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Question for BV. I have heard, if you want to cut a close relative out of your will, it's best to leave them a derisory amount, say £10. This shows that you hadn't lost your marbles and forgotten they exist, but demonstrates the contempt in which you held them. Thus by doing that, it makes it harder for those left a tenner to contest it.

Is there any truth in this, or is it just internet drivel. I kind of hope it's true, as it's petty and vindictive, two of my favourite attributes, but I suspect it isn't.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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That sounds like a bit of an urban myth.

The starting point is that everybody is free to dispose of their property as they please, assuming that the property is not subject to a mortgage or other charge and is not subject to a trust. NOBODY has any legally effective expectation of inheritance (subject to the statute point below).

When spouses own houses as joint tenants, the surviving spouse becomes sole owner by right of survivorship and not by inheritance.

Some dependents can make a statutory challenge to a Will if not sufficiently provided for. NB dependents only.

Challenging a Will is difficult, expensive, and time consuming, and doing so destroys family relations and disturbs peace of mind.

Anyone who wishes to challenge a Will should first read "Bleak House" by Charles Dickens.

General advice: It's only money. You didn't earn it. Get over it.


Drive it fix it repeat

1,046 posts

80 months

Thursday 14th January 2021
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Bunch of aholes on here this morning. Not sure why I’m surprised though. I see nothing wrong with asking the question and getting prepared, in fact I think it would be stupid not to. Good to see BV being a cock as normal.