Car Crashed into parents wall
Car Crashed into parents wall
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Arnie Cunningham

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4,566 posts

282 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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In some inexplicable way, a van has crashed into my parents wall. There are witnesses and we have his contact details.
I've had a builder round to quote and was open to them paying directly and making it simple, but they decided they don't want to pay. Or at least they think it's going to be cheaper than it really is. That's fine - so insurance.

However, my parents are both over 80 so I want to make it as simple as possible.

I rarely ever need to make an insurance claim, so not sure what the best course of action is. Should I be:
a. Logging a claim with the 3rd party's motor insurance directly and instruct them to repair the wall.
b. Logging a claim with my parents buildings insurance and they claim back off the 3rd party's insurance
c. Something else?

Many thanks


LosingGrip

8,849 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Simple as possible in my mind would be telling your parents building insurance about it and let them deal with it.

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Arnie Cunningham said:
In some inexplicable way, a van has crashed into my parents wall. There are witnesses and we have his contact details.
I've had a builder round to quote and was open to them paying directly and making it simple, but they decided they don't want to pay. Or at least they think it's going to be cheaper than it really is. That's fine - so insurance.

However, my parents are both over 80 so I want to make it as simple as possible.

I rarely ever need to make an insurance claim, so not sure what the best course of action is. Should I be:
a. Logging a claim with the 3rd party's motor insurance directly and instruct them to repair the wall.
b. Logging a claim with my parents buildings insurance and they claim back off the 3rd party's insurance
c. Something else?

Many thanks

"In some inexplicable way"? confused

Could the extremely heavy frost/ice on the road not explain it? scratchchin

normalbloke

8,861 posts

248 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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4rephill said:
Arnie Cunningham said:
In some inexplicable way, a van has crashed into my parents wall. There are witnesses and we have his contact details.
I've had a builder round to quote and was open to them paying directly and making it simple, but they decided they don't want to pay. Or at least they think it's going to be cheaper than it really is. That's fine - so insurance.

However, my parents are both over 80 so I want to make it as simple as possible.

I rarely ever need to make an insurance claim, so not sure what the best course of action is. Should I be:
a. Logging a claim with the 3rd party's motor insurance directly and instruct them to repair the wall.
b. Logging a claim with my parents buildings insurance and they claim back off the 3rd party's insurance
c. Something else?

Many thanks

"In some inexplicable way"? confused

Could the extremely heavy frost/ice on the road not explain it? scratchchin
The comedy skid marks would suggest otherwise.

Arnie Cunningham

Original Poster:

4,566 posts

282 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Indeed. It was on thursday afternoon, it was daylight and the road was dry with good traction, as evidenced by the skid marks.
That's just the colour of the road surface.
Skid length suggests he was doing maybe 30 mph when he applied the brakes.

He initially claimed brakes failed - skids marks say otherwise. He then said loss of steering - but drove it home just fine. I also saw him drive the van onto a recovery truck this morning - so even post accident, the steering still works, although I suspect it may now have a bent suspension arm.
Hence inexplicable. I suspect either texting on his phone or alcohol were involved, but can prove neither.

Anyway, it's irrelevant, I don't care about excuses, just getting it fixed.

So is consensus that passing it to their buildings insurance is the best way forward?


Edited by Arnie Cunningham on Saturday 23 January 16:33

Mezzanine

10,580 posts

248 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Was the driver breathalysed?!

It’s a straightforward insurance job if you ask me...let them sort it out with his car insurance.

Arnie Cunningham

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4,566 posts

282 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Unfortunately he scarpered at the time and only knocked on their door the following morning. Which is why I'm slightly suspicious of alcohol - otherwise, why run. I have his insurance details and 2x witnesses who happened to be in their front room at the time who saw it happen, so hopefully will all be easy.

So parents buildings insurance and they sort it seems to be the recommendation. I'm happy enough with that.

Mezzanine said:
Was the driver breathalysed?!
It’s a straightforward insurance job if you ask me...let them sort it out with his car insurance.
Edited by Arnie Cunningham on Saturday 23 January 16:32

gazza285

11,136 posts

237 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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normalbloke said:
The comedy skid marks would suggest otherwise.
A fine pair they are too.

pigface1000

80 posts

87 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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The wall clearly jumped out in front of the van.

A near neighbour had a smilier thing happen to them, the went via their home insurance and let them sort it out with the car drivers insurance.

New wall was put up within 3 months.

this is my username

425 posts

89 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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I had this happen to my house. Called the buildings insurance and they took care of everything with zero hassle.

sixor8

8,511 posts

297 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Although buildings insurance policies don't have no claims discount as such, any claim would have to be declared at renewal time, for years.

It's only a brick wall, I'd try to get the vehicle's insurance company to cough up for a new wall first. If no joy, then claim off their own insurance. They've likely got 28 days or similar (check policy details) before a deadline to claim.

Not everybody has buildings insurance (especially if no mortgage) so car insurance companies must have a procedure for this.

Bigends

6,155 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Claim off his motor insurance - its what hes got it for

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Bigends said:
Claim off his motor insurance - its what hes got it for
That's what I'd do. You don't need your own insurer as they're not liable for anything.

elanfan

5,527 posts

256 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Many years ago now so it may no longer apply but there was what was called a third party immobile property sharing agreement where the insurers shared the cost something like two thirds one third.

Talk to drivers insurers and see how they want to play things.

EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

255 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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I dealt direct with the motor insurance from the driver that knocked a huge stretch of my fencing down. Was fine to deal with myself and could fix it within a week. If dealing with multiple insurance companies you are more likely to wait months.

Pip1968

1,396 posts

233 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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We had an idiot hit our wall with similarly dodgy circumstances. He was going to deal direct until he realised the damage he had done to the car and wall. We went through his motor insurance but I would have thought their house insurance would be the most simple for them.

If you do it I would go through his insurance to ensure he does not get away with it.

Pip

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Bigends said:
Claim off his motor insurance - its what hes got it for
That's what I'd do. You don't need your own insurer as they're not liable for anything.
Of course they are liable. If you have buildings insurance, you've entered into a contract. You've paid a premium, and they've agreed to cover you for whatever is in the contract, one of which will be impact damage. So they are absolutely liable.

Sure, the van driver was negligent, so he is also liable, so the OP's parents have 2 liable parties to claim off. They can choose whichever one they wish. If they choose their buildings insurers, they will have to fix the wall, because they are liable. They can then claim that back for the van driver/his motor insurers, as he was negligent and he has a contract with his insurers to compensate whoever is left out of pocket due to his negligence.

GR_WILL

780 posts

107 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Why would you claim off your own home insurance, thereby affecting claims history, when you can just claim from the van driver’s insurance? The van driver will get off scot free if the OP claims off home insurance as well.

OP, my first port of call would be logging the incident with the van drivers motor insurance. The van driver’s details are known...it’s fairly straightforward..log the claim with his motor insurance.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Didn't think most home insurance covered boundary walls and fences where they are essentially ornamental or a feature of the garden, and not part of the actual building, unless specified.

I'd be checking their policy before ringing.

Bucksspeedyboy

142 posts

83 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Agree - just deal with the van driver’s insurance company. We had our wall damaged by a lorry. I just contacted the lorry firm and they arranged for the damage to be repaired. I don’t know if they put it through their insurance or paid up themselves and I don’t care. It never crossed my mind to go through our own building insurance and then have that on our insurance record going forward.