Assign a private number tax question
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Hi all
I read on the Gov's website that assigning a private plate has the caveat sentence which states. . .
# have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
How would you know if the car has been taxed 100% before you bought it, a lot of cars have been bought and sold privately and may have been sitting in a garage or on private land untaxed?
The reason I ask is if I were to check a car reg number online it would tell me if it is taxed / Untaxed but it wouldn't tell me if the tax has been in place 'continuously'
Thanks in advance
I read on the Gov's website that assigning a private plate has the caveat sentence which states. . .
# have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
How would you know if the car has been taxed 100% before you bought it, a lot of cars have been bought and sold privately and may have been sitting in a garage or on private land untaxed?
The reason I ask is if I were to check a car reg number online it would tell me if it is taxed / Untaxed but it wouldn't tell me if the tax has been in place 'continuously'
Thanks in advance
This DVLA page will tell you the last time a vehicle had tax or MoT in place as well as year of reg,etc:
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?_ga=2.10466...
As far as I'm aware it doesn't have to have been continuously since it was built! If it is still on a vehicle I'd suggest only transferring from a car with current VED or SORN in place is possible.
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?_ga=2.10466...
As far as I'm aware it doesn't have to have been continuously since it was built! If it is still on a vehicle I'd suggest only transferring from a car with current VED or SORN in place is possible.
Edited by sixor8 on Tuesday 2nd February 09:29
This is where I read the sentence, if that helps
https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...
https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...
sixor8 said:
This DVLA page will tell you the last time a vehicle had tax or MoT in place as well as year of reg,etc:
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?_ga=2.10466...
As far as I'm aware it doesn't have to have been continuously since it was built! If it is still on a vehicle I'd suggest only transferring from a car with current VED or SORN in place is possible.
I get what you say and if you follow your link it tells you yes or no but yet doesn't fulfil the parameters of another gov webpage, this is why I'm puzzled. The conflicts are seen on these 2 different pageshttps://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?_ga=2.10466...
As far as I'm aware it doesn't have to have been continuously since it was built! If it is still on a vehicle I'd suggest only transferring from a car with current VED or SORN in place is possible.
Edited by sixor8 on Tuesday 2nd February 09:29
https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...
https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax
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I’m not sure that your issue is clear to me.
Do you already own the plate and the car you want to assign it to?
The gov website says you can only assign a private plate to a vehicle that:
“Must have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
be taxed currently (or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN for more than 5 years, it must be taxed)”
Why would you assign a private plate to a car you don’t own? If you have just bought the car then tax it and you can assign the plate, or wait until you are ready to use the car and assign it then.
Do you already own the plate and the car you want to assign it to?
The gov website says you can only assign a private plate to a vehicle that:
“Must have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
be taxed currently (or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN for more than 5 years, it must be taxed)”
Why would you assign a private plate to a car you don’t own? If you have just bought the car then tax it and you can assign the plate, or wait until you are ready to use the car and assign it then.
Thanks lads, and know Government / DVLA / DWP etc all have issues.
My bug bear is years ago I lost a private plate being younger and trusting.
I own the car and plate is on retention, I have just bought the car and don't want to assign the plate only to loose it, this is why I try and read small print carefully and if still unsure ask someone wiser and knowing PH is a fountain of such motoring matters I thought I'd put up the post.
While I can see from the answers so far we all kind of agree there shouldn't be a problem yet there is still a hint of doubt by some of you; if nothing else an interesting poser for us to solve
My bug bear is years ago I lost a private plate being younger and trusting.
I own the car and plate is on retention, I have just bought the car and don't want to assign the plate only to loose it, this is why I try and read small print carefully and if still unsure ask someone wiser and knowing PH is a fountain of such motoring matters I thought I'd put up the post.
While I can see from the answers so far we all kind of agree there shouldn't be a problem yet there is still a hint of doubt by some of you; if nothing else an interesting poser for us to solve
When I put the private plate on my van I was told i could not do it online , due to its history and i had to apply in writing and produce certain documents which i can not remember which ones now. did that and transferred the number.
I can only assume its due to being written off in the past and perhaps it stood for a while until it was repaired.
But it was easy to do and took a week or two to happen.
I can only assume its due to being written off in the past and perhaps it stood for a while until it was repaired.
But it was easy to do and took a week or two to happen.
sixor8 said:
If the system lets you apply a private reg to a car, that's it, done. It won't suddenly become 'not allowed.' If the receiving vehicle meets the criteria, the reg transfer will be allowed. If not, the reg will stay where it is, presumably on retention.
Exactly this - if the system won’t let you do an instant transfer online it will be because of the 5 year tax/SORN rule.If your vehicle doesn't meet the 5 year continuous tax/SORN rules then you can only apply via post.
My Dad bought an older car and sometime before he got it, it can't have had continuous history. Found out a few years beforehand that it had been bought on finance, abandoned when the owner couldn't afford it, no tax, no MOT etc and been repo'ed.
My Dad bought an older car and sometime before he got it, it can't have had continuous history. Found out a few years beforehand that it had been bought on finance, abandoned when the owner couldn't afford it, no tax, no MOT etc and been repo'ed.
chrisch77 said:
sixor8 said:
If the system lets you apply a private reg to a car, that's it, done. It won't suddenly become 'not allowed.' If the receiving vehicle meets the criteria, the reg transfer will be allowed. If not, the reg will stay where it is, presumably on retention.
Exactly this - if the system won’t let you do an instant transfer online it will be because of the 5 year tax/SORN rule.The way that I read it (could be wrong)
It has to have been taxed or sorned for the last 5 years, so if not taxed for 5 years it must have been sorn'd for the tax gaps.
As I remember it, if you can't do the standard transfer online then it has failed the criteria and you need to apply by post with a covering letter of 'no history known' .
It has to have been taxed or sorned for the last 5 years, so if not taxed for 5 years it must have been sorn'd for the tax gaps.
As I remember it, if you can't do the standard transfer online then it has failed the criteria and you need to apply by post with a covering letter of 'no history known' .
ReturnedForPrivacy said:
The way that I read it (could be wrong)
It has to have been taxed or sorned for the last 5 years, so if not taxed for 5 years it must have been sorn'd for the tax gaps.
As I remember it, if you can't do the standard transfer online then it has failed the criteria and you need to apply by post with a covering letter of 'no history known' .
No letter needed in my case, simply sent off the paperwork instead of online.It has to have been taxed or sorned for the last 5 years, so if not taxed for 5 years it must have been sorn'd for the tax gaps.
As I remember it, if you can't do the standard transfer online then it has failed the criteria and you need to apply by post with a covering letter of 'no history known' .
I once had a problem along these lines back in 2005, when I wanted to remove a plate to sell a car. (Pre the online service),
Stupidly forgot to update the logbook address and I 'missed' an annual reminder following a house move and there was a gap in the car tax history as a result.
In my case, I had to take the car to one of their regional offices, for inspection.
(I did have post office redirection for the first three months of the move)
Stupidly forgot to update the logbook address and I 'missed' an annual reminder following a house move and there was a gap in the car tax history as a result.
In my case, I had to take the car to one of their regional offices, for inspection.
(I did have post office redirection for the first three months of the move)
From the point at which it was last taxed, it should have been continuously in SORN
This was a problem when you had to SORN every 12 mths - but since the SORN was made continuous it now longer applies
If you left it a month between it becoming untaxed and actually declaring SORN you wouldn't be able to remove the plate from the car without getting it back on the road first
If you went passed the 5 years from date of last being taxed (but continuously SORN'd) you wouldn't be able to remove the plate without getting it back on the road first
I've just been thro the whole process of getting a car back on the road in order to remove the plate that was on it - it was SORN'd when I took it off the road in 2014 (surrendered the tax for a refund) and when I remembered I needed to get the plate off it I had passed the 5 year deadline
Back story if you are interested Resurrection of an E38
This was a problem when you had to SORN every 12 mths - but since the SORN was made continuous it now longer applies
If you left it a month between it becoming untaxed and actually declaring SORN you wouldn't be able to remove the plate from the car without getting it back on the road first
If you went passed the 5 years from date of last being taxed (but continuously SORN'd) you wouldn't be able to remove the plate without getting it back on the road first
I've just been thro the whole process of getting a car back on the road in order to remove the plate that was on it - it was SORN'd when I took it off the road in 2014 (surrendered the tax for a refund) and when I remembered I needed to get the plate off it I had passed the 5 year deadline
Back story if you are interested Resurrection of an E38
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