Do all ANPRS read for ULEZ/ LEZ?
Do all ANPRS read for ULEZ/ LEZ?
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Woody.GT

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2,450 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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I’m just on the inside of the new LEZ zone and my Land Rover won’t comply. I’m looking at my options including storing it outside the zone but if I took the risk of avoiding cameras on the odd occasion of coming in, is there a way of knowing which cameras read for LEZ?

scottfraser100

29 posts

189 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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ULEZ expands to the north and south circular on the 21st October and the 100% discount stops at that time.

Looks like you're screwed really.....

LordOfTheRingRoad

3,777 posts

93 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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The zone expands from October this year to the North and South Circular Roads. ANPR's may not read for ULEZ, but I think TfL are having to erect new cameras around the new expanded area similar to these ones



before the system goes live.

Woody.GT

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2,450 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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New LEZ is 1st March, there’s nothing that looks like those cameras near me but there is plenty of the single mounted black and yellow cameras around.

DaveH23

3,355 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Just had to Google ULEZ/LEZ nuts


craig511

505 posts

139 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Or fit a stealth covering so they cant read it.

Of course that would be illegal.

https://www.stealthplate.co.uk/


I only used it for an ex-employer so I could park in the staff car park without getting an email from the parking nazis when I was using it on my non-parking days. Worked a treat.

NikBartlett

703 posts

110 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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craig511 said:
Or fit a stealth covering so they cant read it.

Of course that would be illegal.

https://www.stealthplate.co.uk/


I only used it for an ex-employer so I could park in the staff car park without getting an email from the parking nazis when I was using it on my non-parking days. Worked a treat.
I'm really surprised tbat website is allowed to exist unless the powers that be know it doesn't work and are using the site as a honeypot and are tracking those who puchase from it.

normalbloke

8,861 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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NikBartlett said:
craig511 said:
Or fit a stealth covering so they cant read it.

Of course that would be illegal.

https://www.stealthplate.co.uk/


I only used it for an ex-employer so I could park in the staff car park without getting an email from the parking nazis when I was using it on my non-parking days. Worked a treat.
I'm really surprised tbat website is allowed to exist unless the powers that be know it doesn't work and are using the site as a honeypot and are tracking those who puchase from it.
Yep, the EncroChat team are all,over it.

phil y

567 posts

151 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Do the CCTV cars still do the rounds in London?

They use ANPR, so if it's parked on the road there's a chance it'll get caught on camera.

Is it worth the risk?

craig511

505 posts

139 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Also handy for staying longer than 2hrs in Private Eye car parks should you want to as the cameras cant read the plates.

Woody.GT

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2,450 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th February 2021
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Thanks although not sure I understand.!? It’s an ‘84 Diesel Landrover and doesn’t currently comply from what I can see.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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If only they had the balls to make ALL journeys inside ULEZ wheelbarrow and rickshaw only.
Things may soon change scratchchin

dacouch

1,172 posts

158 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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The best way is to register for Autopay, it debits your account when you pass any of their cameras, if you don't pass any of the cameras you won't get charged.

Cameras are often situated on large main roads and bridges

mcflurry

9,189 posts

282 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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craig511 said:
Or fit a stealth covering so they cant read it.

Of course that would be illegal.
I'd question whether they work. If you can see the number plate, then so can a regular camera..

Woody.GT

Original Poster:

2,450 posts

248 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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dacouch said:
The best way is to register for Autopay, it debits your account when you pass any of their cameras, if you don't pass any of the cameras you won't get charged.

Cameras are often situated on large main roads and bridges
I wouldn't mind doing this if it was £12.50 like ULEZ but the LEZ is £100 a day eekeekeek


Jeremy-75qq8

1,752 posts

121 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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I sympathise.

I sold my Range Rover sport. Bough new in 2014 the other day. Only done 27k miles. Gutted.

My ex wife has a 15 year old Aston db9 that does 10 to the gallon but it is compliant

s p a c e m a n

12,070 posts

177 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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If you're 'just' on the inside of the south circular there's a high probability you'll be able to avoid it if you're just travelling straight out of the zone. There will be cameras on every roundabout for the a406 though, it's easier to set up.

I've driven hgvs around London for years so have to deal with all of the night time lorry bans and the lez when it first came in and the cameras aren't 100% reliable, there are still routes around them and new drivers regularly take the wrong route and aren't picked up by the cameras.

Woody.GT

Original Poster:

2,450 posts

248 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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s p a c e m a n said:
If you're 'just' on the inside of the south circular there's a high probability you'll be able to avoid it if you're just travelling straight out of the zone. There will be cameras on every roundabout for the a406 though, it's easier to set up.

I've driven hgvs around London for years so have to deal with all of the night time lorry bans and the lez when it first came in and the cameras aren't 100% reliable, there are still routes around them and new drivers regularly take the wrong route and aren't picked up by the cameras.
Thanks. This is the sort of info I’m after. I’m just on inside of new wider LEZ and there are small road routes in and out. Just good to know that they’re not on all traffic lights and not all cameras read. If it’s just the major routes then that’s ok.
Still a risk but calculated.

Gareth79

9,022 posts

275 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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mcflurry said:
craig511 said:
Or fit a stealth covering so they cant read it.

Of course that would be illegal.
I'd question whether they work. If you can see the number plate, then so can a regular camera..
Most ANPR cameras have an infra-red lamp used to get maximum contrast from the plate, otherwise the software can struggle. Also it enables the systems to work at night.

If the systems alert vehicles which failed to get a plate and there is an operator who checks a visible-light camera then yes the product would be useless. For fully-automated ANPR on open car parks it would probably work well!

craig511

505 posts

139 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Gareth79 said:
Most ANPR cameras have an infra-red lamp used to get maximum contrast from the plate, otherwise the software can struggle. Also it enables the systems to work at night.

If the systems alert vehicles which failed to get a plate and there is an operator who checks a visible-light camera then yes the product would be useless. For fully-automated ANPR on open car parks it would probably work well!
Indeed.
There isn’t much follow up from an employers car park. I suspect if you used this day in day out on the public road it would eventually end in some pain .
Most ANPR cameras are totally automated and use the IR spectrum . If they don’t see a plate then it waits until it does see one.
Some good YouTube videos of them and how they work.