Number plates and heavy snow query
Number plates and heavy snow query
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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How does the law work regarding keeping number plates clean and driving in heavy snow? For example, I set off with a wiped down/clean car and I then spend 30mins driving on the M1 in heavy snow and the front plate becomes soiled in slush/snow.

I obviously cannot pull up on hard shoulder and wipe down every few mins. Do you stop at every service station and wipe off? What happens if you are stopped before you get to the next service station, you cannot prove that you cleaned your car, unless you're on a continuous live stream/youtube at the time?

This is a general query on protocol, I've never driven in heavy snow, so haven't had to deal with this. I want to make sure, given that we have had the 1st snow in 10 years here, that if I need to drive I'm not falling foul of the law.

Cheers

Sheepshanks

40,982 posts

148 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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Jaetten said:
... you cannot prove that you cleaned your car, unless you're on a continuous live stream/youtube at the time?
It wouldn't matter if you could. It'd still be against the law to have an obscured nember plate.

Derek Smith

49,745 posts

277 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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The legislation takes this into account. The shorthand given to us back in the day was: is the mud damp. In other words, is there a suggestion, proof if you will, that the registration plate was obscured at the start of the journey. If not, then there's a defence.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
Jaetten said:
... you cannot prove that you cleaned your car, unless you're on a continuous live stream/youtube at the time?
It wouldn't matter if you could. It'd still be against the law to have an obscured nember plate.
I know it’s against the law, that was implied in the first part of my post. My query is relating to keeping it clean while driving in places where you can only stop at certain places, such as Motorways.

Of course I could just tie the wife to the bonnet with a rag in hand to keep it wiped down! 😅

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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Derek Smith said:
The legislation takes this into account. The shorthand given to us back in the day was: is the mud damp. In other words, is there a suggestion, proof if you will, that the registration plate was obscured at the start of the journey. If not, then there's a defence.
Thank you. That’s essentially allowing common sense to be applied.

BertBert

21,254 posts

240 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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I can't really bring myself to believe this is a serious question!

Monkeylegend

29,207 posts

260 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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This could be your justification for keeping the number plate on top of the dashboard.

FazerBoy

1,001 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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Jaetten said:
Of course I could just tie the wife to the bonnet with a rag in hand to keep it wiped down! ??
A life-size bonnet mascot...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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FazerBoy said:
Jaetten said:
Of course I could just tie the wife to the bonnet with a rag in hand to keep it wiped down! ??
A life-size bonnet mascot...
And because of the method of fixing, won’t pose a hazard to pedestrians.

Sheepshanks

40,982 posts

148 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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Derek Smith said:
The legislation takes this into account. The shorthand given to us back in the day was: is the mud damp. In other words, is there a suggestion, proof if you will, that the registration plate was obscured at the start of the journey. If not, then there's a defence.
That's guidance, not legistation.

One would hope common sense would prevail, but if push-came-to-shove you'd have to go through the legal system and hope the Magistrate agreed with you.

neutral 3

8,564 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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BertBert said:
I can't really bring myself to believe this is a serious question!
Agreed..........

Sheepshanks

40,982 posts

148 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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neutral 3 said:
BertBert said:
I can't really bring myself to believe this is a serious question!
Agreed..........
His wife is hoping so.

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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I can see a money making scheme here - heated number plates.
This time next year I'll be a millionaire!

steveo3002

11,201 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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you would think if its bad enough to cover number plates they would out dealing with crashes and blocked roads

if pulled over ..."yes its about that front plate" bend over and wipe it off? would be a mighty jobsworth officer to hassle you over that , but i guess theres plenty of those now

bigandclever

14,355 posts

267 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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NGee said:
I can see a money making scheme here - heated number plates.
This time next year I'll be a millionaire!
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2019/0232924.html

smile

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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bigandclever said:
NGee said:
I can see a money making scheme here - heated number plates.
This time next year I'll be a millionaire!
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2019/0232924.html

smile
Oh st! That's another million pound down the drain then!!

vikingaero

13,255 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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I'm bringing back number plate wipers using rehashed Saab, Volvo and Mercedes headlamp motors and wipers. The motors will be cheap, but each number plate wiper will be hideously expensive for what you get. biggrin

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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Surely when stopped you would be given the opportunity to resolve it?

SiH

1,858 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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BertBert said:
I can't really bring myself to believe this is a serious question!
I agree that it's a rather 'anxious' question but there is a wide range of how people interpret the rules.
As an example I'm on an i3 owners' forum and in a recent post one owner made a comment that 'as soon as you see a warning about an indicator light not working then you should stop the car and arrange for it to be transported somewhere to be repaired'. His argument was that as a non-functional indicator would be an MoT fail it therefore immediately rendered the car unroadworthy and as the indicators are LED units then they can't be replaced by the roadside and so you can't continue your journey. The idea of calling a flat-bed because your indicator has stopped working was utterly barking but that was his absolute interpretation of the rules. It's all part of life's rich tapestry. smile

littlebasher

3,961 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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I stopped the other day to clear snow off my front radar, didn't even occur to me to clear the number plate while i was at it laugh