Yet another PCN question (Broken down)
Yet another PCN question (Broken down)
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Mr_Megalomaniac

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1,273 posts

95 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Hi all,

Fairly straightforward PCN question here. I received a notice from TFL that one of my wheels was covering a footpath on Commercial Road in London. Thing is; I had in fact broken down (computer error) and so was involuntarily stopped there. The image was either before/after I had the bonnet up and was checking around.

I will of course respond to the PCN as I don't think it's fair to fine someone for having a breakdown. But I wanted to check if there was any specific guidance or advice anyone had in relation to when a PCN is issued for a vehicle that has broken down?

I wasn't in the flow of traffic as I had gotten it to the verge, but it's the issue of the wheel on the footpath apparently.

Many thanks in advance.

untakenname

5,350 posts

221 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Do a subject access request for the video a few minutes either side of what they provided (if it was taken via CCTV) and if you called for recovery then get the phone records or a statement from the recovery firm.

Mr_Megalomaniac

Original Poster:

1,273 posts

95 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Thanks! Have just reached out to the breakdown cover provider now and to I'm filling in the form to TFL for this as well.

konark

1,238 posts

148 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
Thanks! Have just reached out to the breakdown cover provider now and to I'm filling in the form to TFL for this as well.
Aaaaaargh.

You contacted them, you rang them, you e-mailed them. You're not a member of the Four Tops.

Mr_Megalomaniac

Original Poster:

1,273 posts

95 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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konark said:
Aaaaaargh.

You contacted them, you rang them, you e-mailed them. You're not a member of the Four Tops.
Dunno what you're talking about mate, my name's Ronnie McNeir.


I shall elucidate the despairing nature of my present circumstances; in my most temperate and equanimeous mind, the engrossment of my soliloquy directed me inexorably towards a series of actions necessitating the commencement of a formal exchange of communication with a metropolitian authority utilising a disdainfully bland and insipid document, which in turn required transmittion by means of the use of fibre optic cables and the electron switch.

Good enough fo' ya govner?
I am certain, no doubt, that the colloquial use of the phraseology "reach out" warrants its acceptance even among those denizens inhabiting the deep dark reaches of the internet where powerfully built directors reside. After all, if the head of EMEA Financial Services is comfortable with its use, it cannot be all that bad.

Ian Geary

5,599 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
After all, if the head of EMEA Financial Services is comfortable with its use, it cannot be all that bad.
Sorry, but yes: yes, it is all bad.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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konark said:
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
Thanks! Have just reached out to the breakdown cover provider now and to I'm filling in the form to TFL for this as well.
Aaaaaargh.

You contacted them, you rang them, you e-mailed them. You're not a member of the Four Tops.
laugh

Chester draws

1,412 posts

139 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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The only exemptions to the ban, seem to be where there is a posted exemption allowing it, and loading if no other option.

A few councils even say being broken down on a yellow isn't allowed, although you should let them know if you do and it might be grounds for a subsequent appeal if you are ticketed.

Mr_Megalomaniac

Original Poster:

1,273 posts

95 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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Just an update on this. A bit of back and forth with TFL, me requesting FoI footage (which will provide a laugh over a beer) and them asking for more information on the circumstances of the breakdown; they have accepted that the evidence I provided was sufficient to demonstrate the breakdown being legitate but that given the nature of it, no effective repair can actually be made. So they have cancelled it.

The reproducible fault and the accompanying error codes & documentation demonstrated in short that computer gremlins make difficult work under specific circumstances.
Thanks for the advice all.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Monday 29th March 2021
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
konark said:
Aaaaaargh.

You contacted them, you rang them, you e-mailed them. You're not a member of the Four Tops.
Dunno what you're talking about mate, my name's Ronnie McNeir.


I shall elucidate the despairing nature of my present circumstances; in my most temperate and equanimeous mind, the engrossment of my soliloquy directed me inexorably towards a series of actions necessitating the commencement of a formal exchange of communication with a metropolitian authority utilising a disdainfully bland and insipid document, which in turn required transmittion by means of the use of fibre optic cables and the electron switch.

Good enough fo' ya govner?
I am certain, no doubt, that the colloquial use of the phraseology "reach out" warrants its acceptance even among those denizens inhabiting the deep dark reaches of the internet where powerfully built directors reside. After all, if the head of EMEA Financial Services is comfortable with its use, it cannot be all that bad.
Trans what now?

rxe

6,700 posts

132 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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The phrase “reach out” is only acceptable in a sentence involving the words “Catholic Priest” and “Choirboys”.

Mr_Megalomaniac

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1,273 posts

95 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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rxe said:
The phrase “reach out” is only acceptable in a sentence involving the words “Catholic Priest” and “Choirboys”.
Although I'm not Catholic I find that's a rather ignorant and bigoted comment. I'm sure if you uttered much similar aspersions for other groups you'd be defending allegations of islamaphobia or anti-semitism.