Islington 6'6" Width Restrictions
Islington 6'6" Width Restrictions
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lost in espace

Original Poster:

6,586 posts

236 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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I drove for Ocado thanks to CV19. In Islington last night I was was confronted by this:



My van will fit and the weight in under the 7.5t limit, there is some debate if I will be fined as DVLA record the width as over 6''6"

If you don't use these it is a complicated reroute over 10 minutes.

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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I'm struggling to understand your post. You went through a width restriction in a van that fits, why do think you may get fined???

pincher

10,525 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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martinbiz said:
I'm struggling to understand your post. You went through a width restriction in a van that fits, why do think you may get fined???
Doesn’t seem that hard to understand to me? Man drives van through 6’6” gap without any issue, DVLA says van is wider than 6’6”, man is concerned Islington Council will fine him based on what DVLA says rather than the fact he didn’t destroy the width restriction.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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The way I've always interpreted them is that the sign forbids vehicles above 6'6" from going through, so if your vehicle is wider than 6'6" you shouldn't be going through even if it fits (weight is immaterial).

If your vehicle is 6'6" or under there will definitely be enough space to get through, if your vehicle is over there might be enough space, but you still shouldn't be going through.

It's not a warning or guide in relation to a restricted width.
Warnings signs are triangular, prohibition signs are red rimmed circular signs.

Council policy in relation to issue of PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) for such?
No idea.


Edited by vonhosen on Sunday 21st March 20:01

pincher

10,525 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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vonhosen said:
The way I've always interpreted them is that the sign forbids vehicles above 6'6" from going through, so if your vehicle is wider than 6'6" you shouldn't be going through even if it fits (weight is immaterial).
But then the arrows on the sign would be vertical, rather than horizontal?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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pincher said:
vonhosen said:
The way I've always interpreted them is that the sign forbids vehicles above 6'6" from going through, so if your vehicle is wider than 6'6" you shouldn't be going through even if it fits (weight is immaterial).
But then the arrows on the sign would be vertical, rather than horizontal?
rolleyes
Greater than a 6'6" measurement in width.

elanfan

5,527 posts

256 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Are there cameras, I can’t see any.

pincher

10,525 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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vonhosen said:
rolleyes
Greater than a 6'6" measurement in width.
Oops! My bad - total misread on my part wobble Apologies!

Heathwood

3,032 posts

231 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Surely it’s the width restriction itself that polices a vehicles ability to get through it, rather than an ANPR camera?! Otherwise they may as well not bother with the restriction and just put a sign up.

Lonely

1,099 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Heathwood said:
Surely it’s the width restriction itself that polices a vehicles ability to get through it, rather than an ANPR camera?! Otherwise they may as well not bother with the restriction and just put a sign up.
I'm thinking along the same lines. How does a camera operate in these circumstances? Is there some link between them and DVLA? I didn't even know vehicle width was recorded at DVLA. Surely if the vehicle goes through it's ok?

Black_S3

2,813 posts

217 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Heathwood said:
Surely it’s the width restriction itself that polices a vehicles ability to get through it, rather than an ANPR camera?! Otherwise they may as well not bother with the restriction and just put a sign up.
The sign is the issue. I wouldn’t be keen going through it multiple times in a week as you could end up with a nasty surprise if they ever put a camera on it.

OverSteery

3,794 posts

260 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Heathwood said:
Surely it’s the width restriction itself that polices a vehicles ability to get through it, rather than an ANPR camera?! Otherwise they may as well not bother with the restriction and just put a sign up.
On that basis, then because my 2cv could take speed humps at 60, I should be able to ignore 30 mph speed limit signs?

Heathwood

3,032 posts

231 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Black_S3 said:
Heathwood said:
Surely it’s the width restriction itself that polices a vehicles ability to get through it, rather than an ANPR camera?! Otherwise they may as well not bother with the restriction and just put a sign up.
The sign is the issue. I wouldn’t be keen going through it multiple times in a week as you could end up with a nasty surprise if they ever put a camera on it.
Have you asked for your employers take on this?

Black_S3

2,813 posts

217 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Heathwood said:
Black_S3 said:
Heathwood said:
Surely it’s the width restriction itself that polices a vehicles ability to get through it, rather than an ANPR camera?! Otherwise they may as well not bother with the restriction and just put a sign up.
The sign is the issue. I wouldn’t be keen going through it multiple times in a week as you could end up with a nasty surprise if they ever put a camera on it.
Have you asked for your employers take on this?
I’m not the OP, but a friend used to work for Ocado. The vans all used to run dashcams and the drivers used to get fairly regular disciplinaries for poor driving picked up by the dashcams. I think I remember that friend coming close to getting sacked for some sort of company points type totting up scheme. I wouldn’t be alerting them to having driven through it.

Heathwood

3,032 posts

231 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Black_S3 said:
Heathwood said:
Black_S3 said:
Heathwood said:
Surely it’s the width restriction itself that polices a vehicles ability to get through it, rather than an ANPR camera?! Otherwise they may as well not bother with the restriction and just put a sign up.
The sign is the issue. I wouldn’t be keen going through it multiple times in a week as you could end up with a nasty surprise if they ever put a camera on it.
Have you asked for your employers take on this?
I’m not the OP
Ah, yes. Apologies

SmoothCriminal

5,939 posts

228 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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elanfan said:
Are there cameras, I can’t see any.
Yes on the lamp post.

I imagine it is used to police the gap in the middle rather than the 6"6 sides.

DaveCWK

2,401 posts

203 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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Isn't the newest BMW X5 wider than 6'6"? Surprised these haven't been 'updated' yet.

Heathwood

3,032 posts

231 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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DaveCWK said:
Isn't the newest BMW X5 wider than 6'6"? Surprised these haven't been 'updated' yet.
Wow, really? Is that not including the door mirrors?

bristolracer

5,949 posts

178 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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What a nightmare

They leave a big gap in the middle for emergency vehicles but what about large deliveries (fridges washing machines), removal lorries, builders deliveries, scaffolding trucks, skip lorries etc etc do they all get hit with a fine?

fido

18,887 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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OverSteery said:
On that basis, then because my 2cv could take speed humps at 60, I should be able to ignore 30 mph speed limit signs?
Well you have something called a speedometer to look at whereas not everyone knows the width of their vehicle until they have to navigate a restriction. I have one of these near me to stop lorries taking a short cut. Don’t see why OP’s van would be a problem.

Edited by fido on Sunday 21st March 18:31