Penalty points for cyclists..?
Penalty points for cyclists..?
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Chicken_Satay

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2,517 posts

233 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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I received a letter this morning claiming that I went through a red light on my bicycle and apparently I can "deal with it by a fixed penalty of £100 and the endorsement of 3 penalty points on your license".

Is this correct? As far as I'm aware, riding a bicycle does not require a licence and the brief research I have done online confirms this. Has anything changed that I need to know or will I now have to contest the matter?

If I do have to contest the matter, what would be the best course of action?

sospan

2,755 posts

251 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Scam letter? If legal how were you traced ?

RedWhiteMonkey

9,085 posts

211 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Who is the letter from? How on earth did they know it was you?

roadsmash

2,667 posts

99 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Upload a copy of the letter?

BoRED S2upid

21,047 posts

269 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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As above really how did they know it was you?

But yes you can get a fine and points for breaking the law on a bike or scooter you don’t need a licence and they can put 3 points on a licence even if you don’t have one if you got one it would come with them on. This has happened to joy riding youths or people on those electric scooters.

qwerty360

298 posts

74 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Yes, you can receive motoring penalties on a bicycle (though only for offences which apply to vehicles rather than motor vehicles).

If you don't have a driving licence then they can put them on a shadow licence.


This is the same process as for driving without a licence, or overpowered ebikes, (or recently e-scooters)...


I can't see why people would object to this. While penalties should be adjusted for risk, so reduced for cyclists, but licence points should be about future prevention, not penalty so really shouldn't be considered for this. If you aren't following the rules on one mode of transport you probably won't follow them on another... (Or put another way, I applaud idiots on bikes; at least they aren't driving cars!)

rigga

8,805 posts

230 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Who is the letter from? How on earth did they know it was you?
Pretty much this




InitialDave

15,085 posts

148 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Where are they asking you to send the money to?

TheInternet

5,230 posts

192 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Chicken_Satay said:
I received a letter this morning claiming that I went through a red light on my bicycle and apparently I can "deal with it by a fixed penalty of £100 and the endorsement of 3 penalty points on your license".
Arrived 11 days late, but that's a good wheeze.

80sMatchbox

3,997 posts

205 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Please adjust your watch, it's the 12th April, not the 1st.laughlaugh

More frothing at the mouth from non cyclists about to occur.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,868 posts

84 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Chicken_Satay said:
I received a letter this morning claiming that I went through a red light on my bicycle and apparently I can "deal with it by a fixed penalty of £100 and the endorsement of 3 penalty points on your license".

Is this correct? As far as I'm aware, riding a bicycle does not require a licence and the brief research I have done online confirms this. Has anything changed that I need to know or will I now have to contest the matter?

If I do have to contest the matter, what would be the best course of action?
Fake... "License" noun is with a c.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Let's see the letter then.

Chicken_Satay

Original Poster:

2,517 posts

233 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Fake... "License" noun is with a c.
That was me that typed that incorrectly. It's not a scam and it's a real letter so I'm not questioning any of that.

I'd like to focus on whether three points on a driving licence is applicable for a cyclist or not.

InitialDave

15,085 posts

148 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Chicken_Satay said:
It's not a scam and it's a real letter
What is your basis for being able to state that?

RedWhiteMonkey

9,085 posts

211 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Chicken_Satay said:
That was me that typed that incorrectly. It's not a scam and it's a real letter so I'm not questioning any of that.

I'd like to focus on whether three points on a driving licence is applicable for a cyclist or not.
Who is the letter from?
How did they know it was you? What actual evidence do they have?

As has already been said, you can get points and they either go on your driving licence or on a shadow one if you don't have a driving licence.

Why are these types of threads always like pulling teeth?

monthou

5,345 posts

79 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Chicken_Satay said:
That was me that typed that incorrectly. It's not a scam and it's a real letter so I'm not questioning any of that.

I'd like to focus on whether three points on a driving licence is applicable for a cyclist or not.
I'd like to focus on how you were identified as the rider.

Chicken_Satay

Original Poster:

2,517 posts

233 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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InitialDave said:
What is your basis for being able to state that?
It doesn't really matter because I'm not questioning the authenticity of the letter. I'm questioning if the three points is applicable to a cyclist and that's all I'd like help with please.

davek_964

11,250 posts

204 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Chicken_Satay said:
It doesn't really matter because I'm not questioning the authenticity of the letter. I'm questioning if the three points is applicable to a cyclist and that's all I'd like help with please.
That's already been answered more than once.
The answer is : yes.

Oceanrower

1,357 posts

141 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Did you do it?

If so, pay up and look big.

If not, you can contest it in court...

Oceanrower

1,357 posts

141 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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monthou said:
Chicken_Satay said:
That was me that typed that incorrectly. It's not a scam and it's a real letter so I'm not questioning any of that.

I'd like to focus on whether three points on a driving licence is applicable for a cyclist or not.
I'd like to focus on how you were identified as the rider.
IF the letter is genuine...

My money is on him being stopped by plod and asked for his details.

I very much doubt the letter was unexpected.