How normal is this?
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bitchstewie

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67,455 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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The whole "hanging out the window on the motorway with my gun trained on you" thing yikes

https://www.tiktok.com/@soze9th/video/695092628813...

Thermobaric

725 posts

149 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Normal in terms of assessing the threat and deciding this was the best approach with respect to minimizing chance of injury to those involved.

Abnormal in terms of frequency of occurrence I'd guess.

unident

6,702 posts

80 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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I would say completely abnormal for the vast majority of people, especially as I can pretty much guarantee it’s not happened to anyone on here. However, if you are a wannabe gangsta, who sees this as something to record and stick on TikTok, then probably quite a regular occurrence.

sherman

15,222 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Perfectly acceptable until the situation is contained.
The driver stopped pretty quickly once a gun is hanging out of the window at them. We dont know how long the chase was going on before the stop or what they had done tl warrant the armed response.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Video taken down

Pixelpeep Z4

8,948 posts

171 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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The turning point, in my opinion, for out of hand social media videos was Kinga Karolczak on Big Brother 6 - showing to the world just how 'famous' an otherwise talentless and intellectually challenged person can be by selling your soul (and dignity) and doing something utterly shocking in front of a camera.

The world has been upside down ever since.

No one wants to work hard for nice things.

LosingGrip

8,849 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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mybrainhurts said:
Video taken down
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeup21eA/

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

137 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Are you Belgian by any chance? You put a lot of effort into trying to dislike the police.

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

67,455 posts

239 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Not sure where that came from.

I've not seen an armed stop with an officer hanging out the window of a moving vehicle on the motorway before.

It's the kind of thing you usually see in films and I didn't know if that's normal (in so much as being stopped by armed Police is never normal).

HantsRat

2,409 posts

137 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Not normal for a routine traffic stop but normal for an armed intercept where intelligence suggests vehicle/occupants have firearms.

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

137 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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What he said. Making yourself very approachable with guns drawn means the thought of “these lot won’t be armed, we’ll get out of this” is very much gone and it’s “st, I better comply before they start shooting.

sospan

2,755 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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It is similar to the effect of a taser. Seeing the red dot on your body usually gets the suspect to comply. It emphasises the threat of being tasered.
A frequent comment from officers into our ops room would include......” red dotted the target who then became compliant. “
It certainly defused many situations.

SteveScooby

841 posts

206 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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It’s a “hard stop” generally reserved for when there is information to suggest that the occupant of the vehicle is likely to be in possession of a firearm.

Similar tactic used in this case

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-leeds-50956521

Edited by SteveScooby on Thursday 15th April 14:08

Chris32345

2,141 posts

91 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Video not available

Greendubber

15,262 posts

232 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Its all good.

Exige77

6,523 posts

220 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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The chap in the car still has his banging tunes running so not overly bothered.

Derek Smith

49,740 posts

277 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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I think it is a good thing to monitor the police. After all, the officers and the institution have a certain power that is regulated, and should be checked to ensure they conform to them. It’s a shame more powerful institutions, those more powerful than the police, don’t follow suit.

There are any number of people who take the time and trouble to do so. In my force we had lay visitors. These people do a great job in visiting cells to see how prisoners are dealt with. They have the authority to go anywhere they want (that's lay visitors, not prisoners) and to ask whatever questions they want as long as the rights of the prisoners are respected and there are no operational objections.

I ran the CCTV room in a busy seaside city. We had lay visitors who visited the room whenever they wanted to, without warning, and without hindrance, coming in at all hours and checking what we did and ensuring we conformed to the published guidelines. There was only one instance where procedures in the room were questioned, and that was regarding a video headed, ‘Two men screwing TK’. It was two men trying to get the money from a telephone kiosk, and not what the lay visitor assumed.

I often wonder what these people, who come to the stations at all hours, are often abused by prisoners, have a chance of being recognised, who take the trouble to make notes, observe procedures and produce recommendations think of those who merely surf the net and publish an already published video somewhere else.

vaud

59,392 posts

184 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Exige77 said:
The chap in the car still has his banging tunes running so not overly bothered.
When I watched it they were told to keep still - reaching for the centre console might not be a good idea.

Collectingbrass

2,959 posts

224 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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SteveScooby said:
It’s a “hard stop” generally reserved for when there is information to suggest that the occupant of the vehicle is likely to be in possession of a firearm.

Similar tactic used in this case

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-leeds-50956521

Edited by SteveScooby on Thursday 15th April 14:08
Local rumour has it that it was a hard stop at J 6 on the M1 following an alleged armed robbery of an alleged cannabis factory in Luton


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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LosingGrip said:
mybrainhurts said:
Video taken down
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeup21eA/
Ok, got it now, armed police motorway stop. Well, that's what you get for driving a blue MG. What did you expect?