Parking charge Notice - new owner of car park
Parking charge Notice - new owner of car park
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Fastpedeller

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4,346 posts

175 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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My Daughter has received a Parking Charge Notice (Parking Eye) through the post today, relating to parking on 10th April. Invoice is £100 , reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days. She is the RK of the car but wasn't the driver. The occupants had shopped in ASDA store, and previously used this car park without problems, but it appears this car park (or part of it) is no longer Asda, and now belongs to a nearby Hotel chain. They were unaware of this change.
I've looked at pepipoo for advice, but it appears the postings there all date to several years ago, and I recall the legal situation had changed somewhat due to a case a couple of years ago.
The car park is free - but only to anyone who has business at the Hotel and registers at reception - fair enough I guess.
Anyway, we plan a trip there tomorrow to check signage, which would seem the only way of appealing if it isn't easily visible. We don't deny the car was parked there, and if there is sufficient signage, may have to just suck it up..... or are there still grounds to appeal on invoice cost, on the grounds of minimal admin cost and zero car parking cost, particularly with a hotel which is closed due to covid?

jet_noise

6,085 posts

211 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Try this for an explanation of today's rules.

Thermobaric

725 posts

149 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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mhurley said:
I've received one today. For parking in a pub car park.
"Customers of the pub must validate their ticket at the console"
Thing is the Pub is closed due to COVID therefore I can't be a customer anyway
So what are you doing parking on private land then?

mhurley

823 posts

162 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Close the car park then if the pub is closed
Just a money making scheme

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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mhurley said:
Close the car park then if the pub is closed
Just a money making scheme
To be fair why not. Is it ok if someone parks on your property?

Fluid

1,750 posts

214 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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mhurley said:
Close the car park then if the pub is closed
Just a money making scheme
Just because the pub is closed, doesn’t give you the right to be on their property.

Thermobaric

725 posts

149 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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mhurley said:
Close the car park then if the pub is closed
Just a money making scheme
Would a simple sign at the entrance saying "car park closed" be sufficient or would you still have parked there? Or do you expect a business that has suffered from losing significant amounts of money during a pandemic to spend money they don't have installing a gate/barrier to keep people off their private land?

zetec

5,197 posts

280 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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So if I park on your driveway, but your not in for me to ask permission, does that make it ok?

MoggieMinor

471 posts

174 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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The God given right to dump cars anywhere, regardless of who owns the land. A couple of pubs locally have closed their car parks off. The barney that has caused...

Mrr T

15,401 posts

294 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Your daughter can just name the driver and the invoice should be cancelled.

If not she can pay it and avoid any hassle or fight it. She is likely to win but it does take time and effort.

The first thing to check is does the notice meet the requirements to create KL. There is a link above to the rules. These must be followed exactly by the PK to create KL. Most do not. If you scan and post the letter with details redacted we can see.

Fastpedeller

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4,346 posts

175 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Thanks for the advice. It appears it complies There is the protection of Freedoms Act statement, appeals procedure and even a privacy Information statement.
It looks like they've crossed all the T's and dotted all the i's - and that they know how to make it stick, unfortunately.
We looked at signs today, all in order - Driver and daughter just didn't see them and Asda only have a small part of car park compared to the last time they shopped. I spoke to Asda, who said many have been caught out.
Naming the driver would maybe only take the charge away from our Daughter, but make it a cost to the driver, so nothing to be gained there.
We may try to appeal to their better nature (ie a pleading letter) by email to see if they'll reduce the figure (NHS employee on day off)

Oceanrower

1,357 posts

141 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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I’m puzzled. Why do you think an NHS employee should be let off a penalty for parking in the wrong place but others shouldn’t?

Surely we’re not still playing the old “key worker” bks card?

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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Fastpedeller said:
(NHS employee on day off)
I did have a bit of sympathy for you before you played that card.

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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NGee said:
Fastpedeller said:
(NHS employee on day off)
I did have a bit of sympathy for you before you played that card.
Yes, I think we’re all getting a bit fed up with that one.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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bad company said:
NGee said:
Fastpedeller said:
(NHS employee on day off)
I did have a bit of sympathy for you before you played that card.
Yes, I think we’re all getting a bit fed up with that one.
yes ex was a nurse and I used to cringe when she opened her mouth for a discount, they forget what good money they are on but don't see outside the 'echo chamber' they work in unfortunately.

mattyprice4004

1,342 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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No sympathy with the NHS card being played.

Fastpedeller

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4,346 posts

175 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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mattyprice4004 said:
No sympathy with the NHS card being played.
It is the truth, and I thought it might help, but after the comments above, maybe I won't mention it.

Fastpedeller

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4,346 posts

175 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Oceanrower said:
I’m puzzled. Why do you think an NHS employee should be let off a penalty for parking in the wrong place but others shouldn’t?

Surely we’re not still playing the old “key worker” bks card?
I'm not expecting her to be 'let off', but hoping to get a reduction. She isn't well paid by the standards of 'powerful company director' on PH

Oceanrower

1,357 posts

141 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Fastpedeller said:
Oceanrower said:
I’m puzzled. Why do you think an NHS employee should be let off a penalty for parking in the wrong place but others shouldn’t?

Surely we’re not still playing the old “key worker” bks card?
I'm not expecting her to be 'let off', but hoping to get a reduction. She isn't well paid by the standards of 'powerful company director' on PH
Sorry. I’ll rephrase it...

I’m puzzled. Why do you think an NHS employee should pay less of a penalty for parking in the wrong place than a shelf stacker or shoe salesperson?

Surely we’re not still playing the old “key worker” bks card?

Fastpedeller

Original Poster:

4,346 posts

175 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Oceanrower said:
Fastpedeller said:
Oceanrower said:
I’m puzzled. Why do you think an NHS employee should be let off a penalty for parking in the wrong place but others shouldn’t?

Surely we’re not still playing the old “key worker” bks card?
I'm not expecting her to be 'let off', but hoping to get a reduction. She isn't well paid by the standards of 'powerful company director' on PH
Sorry. I’ll rephrase it...

I’m puzzled. Why do you think an NHS employee should pay less of a penalty for parking in the wrong place than a shelf stacker or shoe salesperson?

Surely we’re not still playing the old “key worker” bks card?
You are correct - all the youngsters (and many oldsters) have had a hard time of it recently. I'll just mention that.