Wow , pretty unusual life sentence for pcoj
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https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19245483.oxford-...
This woman got life sentence for framing her (ex) boyfriend, I never heard about a case of pcoj getting life sentence, so wow.
This woman got life sentence for framing her (ex) boyfriend, I never heard about a case of pcoj getting life sentence, so wow.
Interesting case. Although it is a life sentence, it’s quite a low minimum term - 4 years 6 months, after which she’ll be eligible for parole. She’ll be managed on a life licence after that unless revoked. Definitely needs monitoring in the community at least!
Can’t imagine the trauma the victim has experienced. Disgusting. Hope he can recover.
Can’t imagine the trauma the victim has experienced. Disgusting. Hope he can recover.
A married mate of mine was subjected to an awful hate campaign and accused of all sorts after he spurned the advances of a female barrister.
She also upped the game when the police got involved and realised that she was in fact the bad 'un.
She was arrested and lost her lucrative career but this still didn't stop her.
Absolutely crackers.
She also upped the game when the police got involved and realised that she was in fact the bad 'un.
She was arrested and lost her lucrative career but this still didn't stop her.
Absolutely crackers.
If I understand it correctly a "life sentence" is one of those things that are easily misunderstood, due to the nature of the wording. A life sentence will have a minimum term which will range from a period of years up to a "whole life order" for the accused to spend their entire life actually in prison.
In this instance I presume the fact she was a barrister herself was an aggravating factor, on top of the very serious offences she accused the guy of, as well as stabbing herself and claiming he was behind it (via kidnappers). Clearly very dangerous to this guy and anyone else who ends up crossing her, hence the severity of the sentence but comparitively lighter minimum term.
In this instance I presume the fact she was a barrister herself was an aggravating factor, on top of the very serious offences she accused the guy of, as well as stabbing herself and claiming he was behind it (via kidnappers). Clearly very dangerous to this guy and anyone else who ends up crossing her, hence the severity of the sentence but comparitively lighter minimum term.
Not having any legal knowledge at all I often find the mitigating remarks by defence counsel interesting. They often take the form of "the life of x, who was a high flier, has been ruined" which has always struck me as perverse; it's mitigation not available to people who have crap lives in the first place, but then their mitigation tends to be "they've had a really crap life" so the arguments don't really make sense to me.
The use of emotionally unstable PD in this case seems jarring too. It is exactly equivalent to offering the mitigation on behalf of a serial killer that "he's a psychopath".
The use of emotionally unstable PD in this case seems jarring too. It is exactly equivalent to offering the mitigation on behalf of a serial killer that "he's a psychopath".
h really do be crazy.Durzel said:
If I understand it correctly a "life sentence" is one of those things that are easily misunderstood, due to the nature of the wording. A life sentence will have a minimum term which will range from a period of years up to a "whole life order" for the accused to spend their entire life actually in prison.
In this instance I presume the fact she was a barrister herself was an aggravating factor, on top of the very serious offences she accused the guy of, as well as stabbing herself and claiming he was behind it (via kidnappers). Clearly very dangerous to this guy and anyone else who ends up crossing her, hence the severity of the sentence but comparitively lighter minimum term.
Why do they call it a life sentence though when it often / mostly isn't? In this instance why not call it what it is, a 4 year sentence and you will serve the full term.In this instance I presume the fact she was a barrister herself was an aggravating factor, on top of the very serious offences she accused the guy of, as well as stabbing herself and claiming he was behind it (via kidnappers). Clearly very dangerous to this guy and anyone else who ends up crossing her, hence the severity of the sentence but comparitively lighter minimum term.
TX.
Terminator X said:
Durzel said:
If I understand it correctly a "life sentence" is one of those things that are easily misunderstood, due to the nature of the wording. A life sentence will have a minimum term which will range from a period of years up to a "whole life order" for the accused to spend their entire life actually in prison.
In this instance I presume the fact she was a barrister herself was an aggravating factor, on top of the very serious offences she accused the guy of, as well as stabbing herself and claiming he was behind it (via kidnappers). Clearly very dangerous to this guy and anyone else who ends up crossing her, hence the severity of the sentence but comparitively lighter minimum term.
Why do they call it a life sentence though when it often / mostly isn't? In this instance why not call it what it is, a 4 year sentence and you will serve the full term.In this instance I presume the fact she was a barrister herself was an aggravating factor, on top of the very serious offences she accused the guy of, as well as stabbing herself and claiming he was behind it (via kidnappers). Clearly very dangerous to this guy and anyone else who ends up crossing her, hence the severity of the sentence but comparitively lighter minimum term.
TX.
Terminator X said:
Why do they call it a life sentence though when it often / mostly isn't? In this instance why not call it what it is, a 4 year sentence and you will serve the full term.
TX.
Because there is no guarantee that she’ll be out in four. Chances are she’ll do at least 25% longer than that as she awaits transfer to prisons that run the courses she’ll need to do, (which should be a lot !), plus delays in waiting for parole to move through the estate and into open conditions. Then she’ll need another parole hearing to get released. Once released she’ll be on licence for at least ten years before she can apply for her licence conditions to be overturned.TX.
I expect she’ll do five behind the door before moving onto open, where she’ll probably do another two.
Or because she pisses sitting down, she’ll be classed as a ‘victim’ and by some sort of a miracle, she’ll be out bang on time.
105.4 said:
Because there is no guarantee that she’ll be out in four. Chances are she’ll do at least 25% longer than that as she awaits transfer to prisons that run the courses she’ll need to do, (which should be a lot !), plus delays in waiting for parole to move through the estate and into open conditions. Then she’ll need another parole hearing to get released. Once released she’ll be on licence for at least ten years before she can apply for her licence conditions to be overturned.
I expect she’ll do five behind the door before moving onto open, where she’ll probably do another two.
Or because she pisses sitting down, she’ll be classed as a ‘victim’ and by some sort of a miracle, she’ll be out bang on time.
Also the fact she was a trained barrister would have done her no favours at all when it came to sentencingI expect she’ll do five behind the door before moving onto open, where she’ll probably do another two.
Or because she pisses sitting down, she’ll be classed as a ‘victim’ and by some sort of a miracle, she’ll be out bang on time.
105.4 said:
Because there is no guarantee that she’ll be out in four. Chances are she’ll do at least 25% longer than that as she awaits transfer to prisons that run the courses she’ll need to do, (which should be a lot !), plus delays in waiting for parole to move through the estate and into open conditions. Then she’ll need another parole hearing to get released. Once released she’ll be on licence for at least ten years before she can apply for her licence conditions to be overturned.
I expect she’ll do five behind the door before moving onto open, where she’ll probably do another two.
Or because she pisses sitting down, she’ll be classed as a ‘victim’ and by some sort of a miracle, she’ll be out bang on time.
I look at case law like Beale and beach they do not get life sentence either. Ignoring the fact it is pcoj, what is do is just fraud+harressment (and stalking). Fraud and harressment do not carry life sentence either. I am harresse, stalk and making threats and even carry a weapon and still not get a life sentence!I expect she’ll do five behind the door before moving onto open, where she’ll probably do another two.
Or because she pisses sitting down, she’ll be classed as a ‘victim’ and by some sort of a miracle, she’ll be out bang on time.
105.4 said:
Because there is no guarantee that she’ll be out in four. Chances are she’ll do at least 25% longer than that as she awaits transfer to prisons that run the courses she’ll need to do, (which should be a lot !), plus delays in waiting for parole to move through the estate and into open conditions. Then she’ll need another parole hearing to get released. Once released she’ll be on licence for at least ten years before she can apply for her licence conditions to be overturned.
I expect she’ll do five behind the door before moving onto open, where she’ll probably do another two.
Or because she pisses sitting down, she’ll be classed as a ‘victim’ and by some sort of a miracle, she’ll be out bang on time.
She'll be out before her accomplice has finished his sentence.I expect she’ll do five behind the door before moving onto open, where she’ll probably do another two.
Or because she pisses sitting down, she’ll be classed as a ‘victim’ and by some sort of a miracle, she’ll be out bang on time.
She's seriously wierd.
The mitigation almost, well a bit, made me feel sorry for her defence team. She's got an emotionally unstable personality disorder. I don't know how much they paid for that diagnosis, but they were done. Nothing was persuasive. It's a wonder the defence didn't ask the judge to take into account the pain she suffered from the stabbing.
Derek Smith said:
She'll be out before her accomplice has finished his sentence.
She's seriously wierd.
The mitigation almost, well a bit, made me feel sorry for her defence team. She's got an emotionally unstable personality disorder. I don't know how much they paid for that diagnosis, but they were done. Nothing was persuasive. It's a wonder the defence didn't ask the judge to take into account the pain she suffered from the stabbing.
She's seriously wierd.
The mitigation almost, well a bit, made me feel sorry for her defence team. She's got an emotionally unstable personality disorder. I don't know how much they paid for that diagnosis, but they were done. Nothing was persuasive. It's a wonder the defence didn't ask the judge to take into account the pain she suffered from the stabbing.
You just know it was considered Derek.
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