Rear Ended by bike...now he’s got a made up witness!
Rear Ended by bike...now he’s got a made up witness!
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Lordbenny

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8,752 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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I’ll keep this short...

Got rear ended by a courier bike 3 weeks ago....insurance have paid out in my favour. However, I’ve just received a very official letter from the Surrey police alleging that I could be guilty of driving without due care and attention. I have spoken a very nice guy at Surrey police that issued the letter and he says the bike rider has a witness to saying I knocked him off...(he didn’t have a witness!)

Luckily,I also had a witness who I have just spoken too who will back me to the hilt. She also has....wait for it....dash cam footage!!!! RESULT!

What I want to ask now is...What happens to the little scroat who has dreamed up the imaginary witness potentially putting my career in jeopardy (I drive for a living)?

motco

17,608 posts

275 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Charged with PCJ - in an ideal world

Short Grain

3,435 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Is it a courier company? Or a self employed guy? Can you trace any shirt logo or anything?

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Lordbenny said:
I’ll keep this short...

Got rear ended by a courier bike 3 weeks ago....insurance have paid out in my favour. However, I’ve just received a very official letter from the Surrey police alleging that I could be guilty of driving without due care and attention. I have spoken a very nice guy at Surrey police that issued the letter and he says the bike rider has a witness to saying I knocked him off...(he didn’t have a witness!)

Luckily,I also had a witness who I have just spoken too who will back me to the hilt. She also has....wait for it....dash cam footage!!!! RESULT!

What I want to ask now is...What happens to the little scroat who has dreamed up the imaginary witness potentially putting my career in jeopardy (I drive for a living)?
Unless he actually can back up his claim, I can't see how he's even "potentially" putting anything in jeopardy. You're not about to be convicted of anything on an unsubstantiated statement, are you?

PistonTim

723 posts

168 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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motco said:
Charged with PCJ - in an ideal world
100% this, we pay enough for insurance with all these scammers around.

Fight it with dashcam footage and even push for defamation and / or fraud as a counter accusation.

Smurfsarepeopletoo

1,012 posts

86 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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What happened in the incident, just because the insurance sides with you, doesnt mean you couldnt be charged with something by the police.

Lordbenny

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8,752 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
What happened in the incident, just because the insurance sides with you, doesnt mean you couldnt be charged with something by the police.
I was stationary, got rear ended waiting for the car infront to turn right. He went in the back of me....simples!

Smurfsarepeopletoo

1,012 posts

86 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Lordbenny said:
I was stationary, got rear ended waiting for the car infront to turn right. He went in the back of me....simples!
Doesnt get more simple than that lol, I cant imagine the police will do anything to the other driver tbh, lack of resource.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

142 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Plus with damage on rear of car, the only avenue he has to make something up is say you reversed into him.

Secure that footage and play your cards right to drop the fool in it.

Disco You

3,747 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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If you’ve a witness with footage then clearly you’ll be fine.

If it hasn’t already occurred to you then, given that you drive for a living, I’d suggest that it would be a good idea for you to have your own dashcam, front and back.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Once it's all sorted post the video here so we can laugh at him.

Lordbenny

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8,752 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Just received the footage...would love to post it now but better not....it’s conclusive!

So....now I’ve got it what’s my next plan of action?

How do I play it... he and his legal team don’t know I’ve got footage...I’d like to give him a taste of the anxiety he has given me all day and to show him that he can’t make up witnesses to cover his stupidity! I’m not normally the kind of guy who wants revenge....but I’d like to make him suffer a bit!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Are you under an obligation to 'declare' the footage as soon as practicable, or can you string it out and 'pull it out of a hat' later?

Lordbenny

Original Poster:

8,752 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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PistonTim said:
100% this, we pay enough for insurance with all these scammers around.

Fight it with dashcam footage and even push for defamation and / or fraud as a counter accusation.
How?...I don’t want it to take over my life, I just want to give him a bit if his own medicine!

Lordbenny

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8,752 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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280E said:
Are you under an obligation to 'declare' the footage as soon as practicable, or can you string it out and 'pull it out of a hat' later?
Good question...I don’t know exactly what he said I did although I ‘think’ he is saying I knocked him off his bike! I haven’t been told that I have to declare the footage. It won’t go to court that’s for sure. I just want him to get a stty letter telling him that he’s been a fkwit!

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

166 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Lordbenny said:
How?...I don’t want it to take over my life, I just want to give him a bit if his own medicine!
I would do nothing now, let plod make the next move

Amateurish

8,274 posts

251 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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citizensm1th said:
I would do nothing now, let plod make the next move
Agreed. Do not engage with the police unless you have to.

S2r

787 posts

107 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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I'm not a legal bod, but could you not ask for a copy of the witness' statement to see what it says?

Then presumably a response with a copy of the dash cam footage saying that it's all obviously made up would perhaps see the end of it

Derek Smith

49,740 posts

277 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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I'll second the suggestion that professional drivers should invest in a dashcam.

In my experience, the only downside is that you tend to driver slower.

markjmd

563 posts

97 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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The biker and his fake witness must be bang to rights here for PCoJ, surely?