Devon & Cornwall Plod reinforces Community Speedwatch teams
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The new re-elected P & CC Hernandez has just announced that they will embed speed detection officers in speed watch teams, so you'll be taking a risk of a ticket if you speed past the snitches. Quite how they're going to use speed watch teams to police roads like the A3072 isn't clear and I don't think is practicable, but I suspect that they have put both announcements in the same press release just to imply that's what will happen
https://www.devonandcornwall-pcc.gov.uk/news-and-b...
https://www.devonandcornwall-pcc.gov.uk/news-and-b...
They trialled it in Essex a couple of years ago - extra training and certification for volunteers who could then use type approved equipment to capture evidence for prosecutions.
The other approach is to have a certified PCSO occasionally join the groups and enforce that way.
Personally, I don't have a problem with it - CSW only operate in 30mph areas round here, which are usually residential.
If using these volunteers and PCSOs free up police to carry out other activities, what's the problem?
The other approach is to have a certified PCSO occasionally join the groups and enforce that way.
Personally, I don't have a problem with it - CSW only operate in 30mph areas round here, which are usually residential.
If using these volunteers and PCSOs free up police to carry out other activities, what's the problem?
rscott said:
They trialled it in Essex a couple of years ago - extra training and certification for volunteers who could then use type approved equipment to capture evidence for prosecutions.
The other approach is to have a certified PCSO occasionally join the groups and enforce that way.
Personally, I don't have a problem with it - CSW only operate in 30mph areas round here, which are usually residential.
If using these volunteers and PCSOs free up police to carry out other activities, what's the problem?
I've seen it in some of the villages around Salisbury whilst I've been working away. Most are where NSL roads drop to 30 entering villages. The other approach is to have a certified PCSO occasionally join the groups and enforce that way.
Personally, I don't have a problem with it - CSW only operate in 30mph areas round here, which are usually residential.
If using these volunteers and PCSOs free up police to carry out other activities, what's the problem?
Sensible move and already done frequently in Hampshire. You would be amazed how many drivers can’t see a fully liveried police car parked on the side of the road, next to a bright flashing speed warning sign and several people in high vis clothing. God knows how they ever see children or horses in the road.
My first thought was "great, I like having a hoon on that road and they're going to spoil my fun", but realistically the hooning bits are all twisty 60mph zones in the countryside where 60 is pretty much as fast as you'd want to go.
CSWs would only operate in villages, and I always keep to the speed limits there. Anyway, its more amusing to slow the traffic down to 15mph so I can see the disappointed looks on their twitching snitching faces
CSWs would only operate in villages, and I always keep to the speed limits there. Anyway, its more amusing to slow the traffic down to 15mph so I can see the disappointed looks on their twitching snitching faces
Bobtherallyfan said:
Sensible move and already done frequently in Hampshire. You would be amazed how many drivers can’t see a fully liveried police car parked on the side of the road, next to a bright flashing speed warning sign and several people in high vis clothing. God knows how they ever see children or horses in the road.
I wouldn't -while I was chatting to a couple of guys running a speed watch around the corner, some people drove past us completely oblivious to all the signs, hi-vis etcBobtherallyfan said:
Sensible move and already done frequently in Hampshire. You would be amazed how many drivers can’t see a fully liveried police car parked on the side of the road, next to a bright flashing speed warning sign and several people in high vis clothing. God knows how they ever see children or horses in the road.
i wouldn't. IMHO most drivers' observation and hazard perception is shoite.Regular notifications of speed checks in local papers or on local media sites tend to be more effective at speed reduction than sticking camera vans in laybys.
Cameras only catch those speeding and gather revenue.
The modern ethos of education rather than chastising should be used far more with the motorist .
Cameras only catch those speeding and gather revenue.
The modern ethos of education rather than chastising should be used far more with the motorist .
grumpy52 said:
Regular notifications of speed checks in local papers or on local media sites tend to be more effective at speed reduction than sticking camera vans in laybys.
Cameras only catch those speeding and gather revenue.
The modern ethos of education rather than chastising should be used far more with the motorist .
Errm, isn't that the intention lol?Cameras only catch those speeding and gather revenue.
The modern ethos of education rather than chastising should be used far more with the motorist .
grumpy52 said:
Regular notifications of speed checks in local papers or on local media sites tend to be more effective at speed reduction than sticking camera vans in laybys.
Cameras only catch those speeding and gather revenue.
The modern ethos of education rather than chastising should be used far more with the motorist .
What kind of education would stop people speeding i.e. convince them to remain within the speed limits?Cameras only catch those speeding and gather revenue.
The modern ethos of education rather than chastising should be used far more with the motorist .
I live in suffolk, but it gets my support.
The police, still suffering from massive cuts since 2010 quite simply don’t have the resources to enforce speed limits as they’d like to.
The road past my house is a 30 limit, and on sunny days (lol) there are cyclists, walkers, horses and children on it. The occasional idiot doing 50 on it just isn’t acceptable. Yes, that’s you, driver of the Squirrell minibus last week!
The police, still suffering from massive cuts since 2010 quite simply don’t have the resources to enforce speed limits as they’d like to.
The road past my house is a 30 limit, and on sunny days (lol) there are cyclists, walkers, horses and children on it. The occasional idiot doing 50 on it just isn’t acceptable. Yes, that’s you, driver of the Squirrell minibus last week!
Tony1963 said:
I live in suffolk, but it gets my support.
The police, still suffering from massive cuts since 2010 quite simply don’t have the resources to enforce speed limits as they’d like to.
The road past my house is a 30 limit, and on sunny days (lol) there are cyclists, walkers, horses and children on it. The occasional idiot doing 50 on it just isn’t acceptable. Yes, that’s you, driver of the Squirrell minibus last week!
Not the A137 through Brantham near the railway bridge/pub? That's a really annoying 30mph limit - wide road, good visibility, etc. Could easily be a 40 without increasing risk...The police, still suffering from massive cuts since 2010 quite simply don’t have the resources to enforce speed limits as they’d like to.
The road past my house is a 30 limit, and on sunny days (lol) there are cyclists, walkers, horses and children on it. The occasional idiot doing 50 on it just isn’t acceptable. Yes, that’s you, driver of the Squirrell minibus last week!
LosingGrip said:
ddom said:
Glad they’re focusing on the critical stuff 
Do you not think stopping people being killed on the roads is important? I think CSW is a good thing. It does slow people down in towns/villages which is a good thing.
I’d much rather get a letter from them than a camera van!
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