Two policies on one car?
Two policies on one car?
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49,356 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Slight apology as I think this one has been answered before.............

My youngest passed her driving test last year and is mad-keen on starting to drive herself around (rather than rely on me or her mum acting as taxi drivers). The easiest way of doing this would be to insure her on her mum's car. The problem is that she is 19 and her mum's Policy doesn't allow anybody under 21 to be added as a named driver.

So the question is - Can she get her own separate policy on the car? Effectively the car would have two policies on it but (obviously) if we ever needed to make a claim we'd only make it on the relevant policy.

Incidentally indicative quotes for a 19 year old with zero NCD - £1,300! Sounds like a bargain to me, i was expecting something in the region of £2.5k.

Cheers

scorcher

4,123 posts

263 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Shouldn’t be a problem but I’d check with the respective underwriters.If it’s stolen overnight and both insured parties are at home which policy do you claim on?

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Original Poster:

49,356 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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scorcher said:
Shouldn’t be a problem but I’d check with the respective underwriters.If it’s stolen overnight and both insured parties are at home which policy do you claim on?
Whichever one has the lower excess biggrin

TwigtheWonderkid

49,030 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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scorcher said:
Shouldn’t be a problem but I’d check with the respective underwriters.If it’s stolen overnight and both insured parties are at home which policy do you claim on?
In whose custody or control was the vehicle under. If both parties are in the house and the car is stolen from the house, then it would be on who was the last person to drive it.

OP, legally it's fine. But the best solution would be for your wife to cancel a policy and take out a new policy with an underwriter who will cover your daughter as an additional driver.

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Tuesday 25th May 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
In whose custody or control was the vehicle under. If both parties are in the house and the car is stolen from the house, then it would be on who was the last person to drive it.

OP, legally it's fine. But the best solution would be for your wife to cancel a policy and take out a new policy with an underwriter who will cover your daughter as an additional driver.
Thanks, I'll look into it. However she's got 5 months left to run and i don't think she's going to get any refund

ETA just checked and she gets £63 back, so I'm not sure if it's worth cancelling.......

Ham_and_Jam

3,689 posts

126 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Thanks, I'll look into it. However she's got 5 months left to run and i don't think she's going to get any refund

ETA just checked and she gets £63 back, so I'm not sure if it's worth cancelling.......
The amount you get back is irrelevant really. It needs to be costed and compared to the insuring them both on a single policy versus the two policies.

98elise

32,558 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Yes you can have two policies on a car, as long as you're not doing it anything dodgy.

£1300 sounds right for someone that age. My son and daughter were quoted similar. Stick yourself on as a named driver as well, it dropped our quotes by about £100.

SydneyBridge

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187 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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also good for your daughter to build up her own NCB

HantsRat

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137 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Yes I've done this before as I borrowed a family members car for a week. It was easier and cheaper to take out a full year policy then cancel on day 7 for a pro-rata refund that it was to add me as a named driver.

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Wednesday 26th May 2021
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98elise said:
Yes you can have two policies on a car, as long as you're not doing it anything dodgy.

£1300 sounds right for someone that age. My son and daughter were quoted similar. Stick yourself on as a named driver as well, it dropped our quotes by about £100.
Good suggestion - adding her mum on has dropped the quote by £200.

The weird thing is - her mum's Policy was £400 (last year) and the quote for my daughter is £1,300 but if I get a quote for her mum with my daughter as a named driver the quote is £1,900 (ie more than having two separate policies.

Also having the policy in my daughter's name, with Mum as a named driver the quote = £1100. I'm probably keying something in wrong but it's odd that having the Policy in my wife's name is so much more expensive than in my daughter's name. She did have a bump in 2016 but there was no damage to our car and the other party had a scuffed bumper, so i wouldn't have thought it would have had a major impact

Collectingbrass

2,959 posts

224 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Countdown said:
Good suggestion - adding her mum on has dropped the quote by £200.

The weird thing is - her mum's Policy was £400 (last year) and the quote for my daughter is £1,300 but if I get a quote for her mum with my daughter as a named driver the quote is £1,900 (ie more than having two separate policies.

Also having the policy in my daughter's name, with Mum as a named driver the quote = £1100. I'm probably keying something in wrong but it's odd that having the Policy in my wife's name is so much more expensive than in my daughter's name. She did have a bump in 2016 but there was no damage to our car and the other party had a scuffed bumper, so i wouldn't have thought it would have had a major impact
If the policy is in your wife's name the insurance company will likely expect that she is "fronting" for your daughter and they will think that your daughter is in reality the sole user of the car. I know that's not what you're doing, but that's how they will load the premium.

For added sts and giggles get a black box policy and see what that does to the premium, before and after it finds out what your wife's driving is like...

98elise

32,558 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Countdown said:
98elise said:
Yes you can have two policies on a car, as long as you're not doing it anything dodgy.

£1300 sounds right for someone that age. My son and daughter were quoted similar. Stick yourself on as a named driver as well, it dropped our quotes by about £100.
Good suggestion - adding her mum on has dropped the quote by £200.

The weird thing is - her mum's Policy was £400 (last year) and the quote for my daughter is £1,300 but if I get a quote for her mum with my daughter as a named driver the quote is £1,900 (ie more than having two separate policies.

Also having the policy in my daughter's name, with Mum as a named driver the quote = £1100. I'm probably keying something in wrong but it's odd that having the Policy in my wife's name is so much more expensive than in my daughter's name. She did have a bump in 2016 but there was no damage to our car and the other party had a scuffed bumper, so i wouldn't have thought it would have had a major impact
It's just the quirks of data driven risk. Same reason you get a huge range of quotes on a comparison site for the same person/car.

Overall I've been quite pleased at how cheap it's been to insure my kids cars. It's a bit higher (including inflation) than when I started, but way cheaper than when car crime was rife. Back then we also tended to go 3rd party to save money, but these days there is very little in it.

My daughter's Insurance dropped to £700 after a year, so on year 3 it's going to be very reasonable. Mine is about £300 with decades of experience and lots of no claims.



98elise

32,558 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Slightly related but we've just had my wife's renewal through and her insurance has dropped from £240, to £200!

Covid seems to be driving insurance costs down so might be why your insurance quote was cheaper than you thought it would be.

BertBert

21,251 posts

240 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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By doing this, you end up with two different policies that together name two different people as main driver. Unless you have told your daughter's insurers that she isn't main driver.

You now also have a policy that has your wife as a named driver, assuming that's the state of affairs (that daughter is main and wife is not), then why not use that and cancel the wife's policy? Feels much cleaner to me.

Bert

98elise

32,558 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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BertBert said:
By doing this, you end up with two different policies that together name two different people as main driver. Unless you have told your daughter's insurers that she isn't main driver.

You now also have a policy that has your wife as a named driver, assuming that's the state of affairs (that daughter is main and wife is not), then why not use that and cancel the wife's policy? Feels much cleaner to me.

Bert
Surely main driver applies to the policy not the car? The insurer only cares about their cover/risk.

Edited to add I just checked my certificate and it refers to the Policyholder rather than main driver


Edited by 98elise on Thursday 27th May 13:46

RammyMP

7,712 posts

182 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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I always thought this wasn’t allowed but I’ve often had 2 policies on the same car for a day of two due to the weeks free insurance a number of main dealers offer when buying a new car. I presume they brought this in to try and peddle the car makers own insurance and make it easier for them to get the new car taxed.

And also, I had two policies running on my car on Monday, I rang Privilege a few weeks ago and told them not to auto renew my car insurance but they thought they’d do it anyway.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,030 posts

179 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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RammyMP said:
I always thought this wasn’t allowed .
It's not a new thing, it's never been not allowed. It's always been ok to have multiple policies on one car.