Bold views by GMP's new Chief Constable
Bold views by GMP's new Chief Constable
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Bigends

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6,154 posts

157 months

KAgantua

5,164 posts

160 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Wow, I like this guy!!!

FNG

4,744 posts

253 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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In two years time, if he has done what he sets out to do in that article, he should be put in charge of every CC in the country to force them all to do the same.

Sounds exactly like what the public largely expect from the police and are often disappointed about when they find the reality falls short.

Cylon2007

609 posts

107 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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He certainly talks he talk let's hope he can walk the walk as well as GMP bloody well needs it.

Bigends

Original Poster:

6,154 posts

157 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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La Liga said:
I like Watson (worked under him in the past), but I disagree with the tattoos part. I personally don't have any, but it's 2021 and it makes no difference.
Hes not against them - just wants them covered up - tatts always used to be a no no - those that had them were doomed to long sleeves in the summer.

MC Bodge

29,629 posts

204 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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I hope he succeeds.

GMP appear to have got themselves into a poor state.

Ps. I agree that police officers should be fit, healthy and presentable.

Bigends

Original Poster:

6,154 posts

157 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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La Liga said:
Bigends said:
La Liga said:
I like Watson (worked under him in the past), but I disagree with the tattoos part. I personally don't have any, but it's 2021 and it makes no difference.
Hes not against them - just wants them covered up - tatts always used to be a no no - those that had them were doomed to long sleeves in the summer.
If he wants them covered up he is by definition 'against them'.

Another issue is changing the goal posts and consistency. One minute it's fine then the next not. Plus nationally inconsistent.
Hmm - hes changing the goalposts on screening crimes out - is that also wrong? It was fine until he took charge

Bigends

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6,154 posts

157 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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La Liga said:
No, those are working processes that change all the time.



i'm personally with him on everything hes trying to do - from tidying the officers up, to trying to give the public a half decent service

un1corn

2,143 posts

166 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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LMAO.

So if I have a religious tattoo i'd have to cover it up?

How about you start focusing on crime instead of tatts. clown.

andy_s

19,854 posts

288 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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The tats thing is a bit old school [them were the rules back in my day in the nineties] but otherwise, if he does what he says on the tin then good luck I say.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,030 posts

179 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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un1corn said:
LMAO.

So if I have a religious tattoo i'd have to cover it up?

How about you start focusing on crime instead of tatts. clown.
I'd say if you have a religious tattoo, you're so thick that you probably shouldn't be allowed out without a responsible adult by your side, let alone be a police officer. Don't the police have a minimum IQ requirement?

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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I strongly suspect that the tattoos thing is carefully calculated to get the column inches, rather than a strongly held personal hatred of ink. Sneaky bugger, but how much coverage would "we'll do better" get?

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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un1corn said:
LMAO.

So if I have a religious tattoo i'd have to cover it up?

How about you start focusing on crime instead of tatts. clown.
Do religions stipulate that religious tattoos must be on show?

Earthdweller

19,302 posts

155 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Without doubt GMP needs a serious serious kick.

The issues are all within and emanating from the Command Team which started under Fahy and the continued under his sidekick Hopkins who replaced him carrying on his rather odd policies and ideas

It’s in many ways a very good force ( still ) despite the fools at the top and their efforts to break it

It’s repeatedly been shown to be very lacking in the quality of senior leaders with very poor strategic and command decisions being continuously made

The whole command team bar one, maybe two need to be moved on

It’s shameful how bad they are

I know nothing of this new guy but hopefully he can turn it around

Pica-Pica

16,569 posts

113 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
un1corn said:
LMAO.

So if I have a religious tattoo i'd have to cover it up?

How about you start focusing on crime instead of tatts. clown.
I'd say if you have a religious tattoo, you're so thick that you probably shouldn't be allowed out without a responsible adult by your side, let alone be a police officer. Don't the police have a minimum IQ requirement?
Eh?

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Bigends said:
Hes not against them - just wants them covered up - tatts always used to be a no no - those that had them were doomed to long sleeves in the summer.
"Always used to be" is anachronistic, not forward thinking. Visible tattoos are everywhere now. This bloke is way off the mark. He's unfamiliar with the well proven fact that a happy workforce is a productive workforce. Finding extra ways to make officers feel undervalued is no way to get the best out of them.

JulianHJ

8,868 posts

291 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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I'm not massively fussed by his policy on tattoos - forearm/hand/neck/face tattoos were frowned-upon, or possibly a barrier to entry when I joined. I do understand that times have changed and the public may not have the issues they once did (did they actually?); if he says keep them covered, then that's his right as CC.

I wasn't aware GMP were in such a state - sounds like they've got a decent chance of significant improvement with him in charge.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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He's made an absolutely ridiculous promise, too:

"Mr Watson said: “The assurance I have given, and it’s not an easy ask but nonetheless it’s the least the public can expect, is that all crime reported to us will be faithfully recorded and will be properly investigated." Of course it won't. It cannot physically be done with the resources available.

JulianHJ

8,868 posts

291 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Pothole said:
He's made an absolutely ridiculous promise, too:

"Mr Watson said: “The assurance I have given, and it’s not an easy ask but nonetheless it’s the least the public can expect, is that all crime reported to us will be faithfully recorded and will be properly investigated." Of course it won't. It cannot physically be done with the resources available.
I suspect the reality is that it will no longer be a case of filing at source, without an investigator or some sort of reviewer giving it a once over. There will still be a lot of volume crime that doesn't make it beyond a simple assessment that determines there are no realistic lines of enquiry.

gamefreaks

2,067 posts

216 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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On the tattoo thing...

Having your face/hands tattoo'd up shows pretty poor judgment. Not something you want in a police officer...