Accident with uninsured car: WWYD?
Accident with uninsured car: WWYD?
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BertBert

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21,249 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Mrs Bert had a low speed lane changing accident this afternoon. Both cars stopped and the other driver wrote his details down on a piece of paper as did my wife. Overall it sounds 50/50, but I wasn't there

Now we have his name, mobile phone number and the reg of his car. Now of course askmid tells us that his 2016 car is not insured and the MoT checker says no such reg. At "the scene" he asked my wife to pay for his damage rather than insurance and she said she would consult me.

Unfortunately my wife didn't have the presence of mind to check that the reg he had written down was the one on his car. I suspect it wasn't.

He phoned this evening to find out what we wanted to do, so we said go through insurance and asked him for his insurance company. He refused to give it. My wife also asked for him to confirm his reg which he refused to do. He said his insurance company would contact mine. Doesn't

Anyhows, the damage is relatively minor, so I wouldn't want to make a claim for it.

So plan a/ is to inform the insurance company of the accident, but tell them I am not planning on claiming and telling them that we think the reg doesn't exist and see what transpires.

Is there anything else to do? Should we report a false plate to the police? The accident per se is not reportable as details were exchanged and there was no injury or damage to other property.

Cheers
Bert

LosingGrip

8,849 posts

188 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Report to insurance company and police. Give the details he gave you.

Just because it doesn’t show in the MIB website doesn’t mean it’s not insured however.

scorcher

4,123 posts

263 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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If you report it to your insurance company expect a rise in premiums. My ‘report only claim’ makes a significant difference to my motorbike insurance.
How are you going to report a false number plate if you don’t know you have a registration that even exists?

BertBert

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21,249 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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LosingGrip said:
Report to insurance company and police. Give the details he gave you.

Just because it doesn’t show in the MIB website doesn’t mean it’s not insured however.
I'm also thinking that as the MoT checker can't find the reg, it is either a false one or not the one on the car.

Lonely

1,099 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Just a thought but are you reading his writing correctly? Is the reg legible? Seems strange that he would contact you knowing he's not insured or driving with false plates etc.

BertBert

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21,249 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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I thought that too. But it's very clear writing. I can't really make it into something else without just changing letters randomly!

BertBert

Original Poster:

21,249 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Which I have just done and found the car. The guy transposed his letters. So it looks ok. That's much happier.
So I'll just report it to the ins co and see what happens.

As you were everyone. Nothing to see here biggrin

Lonely

1,099 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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So you had a perfectly decent bloke down as a master criminal eh? Shame on you Bert! hehe

BertBert

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21,249 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Lonely said:
So you had a perfectly decent bloke down as a master criminal eh? Shame on you Bert! hehe
Guilty as charged. My apologies to him.

Pica-Pica

16,569 posts

113 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Next time folks, go round the front and note down the VIN in the lower windscreen as well.

BertBert

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21,249 posts

240 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Yes, I did ask Mrs Bert if she saw the number plate which she didn't. She was rather flustered with the whole thing.

Qwerty911

87 posts

116 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Unless you are claiming I wouldn’t tell your insurance, they will do nothing other than flag your details and increase your premium next time!

BertBert

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21,249 posts

240 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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The other party was vehement that it's not his fault so days he will will claim from his insurance to claim from mine.

So it seems unwise not to inform them of the accident.

Bert

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Qwerty911 said:
Unless you are claiming I wouldn’t tell your insurance, they will do nothing other than flag your details and increase your premium next time!
Oh dear, there's always one.

LeoSayer

7,820 posts

273 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Qwerty911 said:
Unless you are claiming I wouldn’t tell your insurance, they will do nothing other than flag your details and increase your premium next time!
Insurance companies can cancel your cover if you fail to tell them about an accident.

If you ever have to make a large claim in the future, they will be highly motivated to discover any past indiscretions.

pavarotti1980

6,329 posts

113 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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LeoSayer said:
Insurance companies can cancel your cover if you fail to tell them about an accident.

If you ever have to make a large claim in the future, they will be highly motivated to discover any past indiscretions.
If neither party informs their insurance company of the collision, how would the insurance company know about it to be able to cancel any cover now or affect a future claim?

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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pavarotti1980 said:
LeoSayer said:
Insurance companies can cancel your cover if you fail to tell them about an accident.

If you ever have to make a large claim in the future, they will be highly motivated to discover any past indiscretions.
If neither party informs their insurance company of the collision, how would the insurance company know about it to be able to cancel any cover now or affect a future claim?
Dangerous route to go down; A) how do you know that he hasn't; B) How do you know someone else hasn't reported it; C) can you be 100% sure that you (or the wife) aren't going to asbent mindedly mention it in a few years at renewal time?

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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And the moral of this story is???
Photos.......... always take photos!

BertBert

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21,249 posts

240 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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martinbiz said:
And the moral of this story is???
Photos.......... always take photos!
Got some photos of the biff on both cars, but no photo of the whole car inc reg. Mrs Bert knows to do that in future - should there be any others!

pavarotti1980

6,329 posts

113 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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AJL308 said:
Dangerous route to go down; A) how do you know that he hasn't; B) How do you know someone else hasn't reported it; C) can you be 100% sure that you (or the wife) aren't going to asbent mindedly mention it in a few years at renewal time?
Because you would know if any of them had informed the insurance company as the insurance company would make contact with you.