Parking in a private car park w/o a registration number

[Subculture]

After some advice if I may. I park an old car in private car park in a block of flats where I am the leaseholder. It is parked in area where parking spaces are not allocated. Residents also have a seperate allocated space. It’s a carpark where you require a fob to enter. The car the is SORN and I don’t live in the flat, and only return once a month or so for an overnight stay.

The managing agents now require everyone to display a permit ( which is free) which needs to be printed out from a residents portal and displayed in the car when parking in this section of the carpark. But you need a new permit every week as the permit is valid for 1 week at a time.

I do have a separate allocated space that does not require a permit ( got another car parked there).
They have instructed a private parking company to issue ‘fines’/invoices for cars not displaying a permit and parking in the unallocated area of the car park.

What would happen if the rear number plate were to fall off accidentally? The car is park right up to a wall and the front number plate is not viewable.

Thanks.

[rlw]

Your fellow leaseholders would think you were a .

[Durzel]

rlw said:

Your fellow leaseholders would think you were a .

Somehow I doubt the OP cares about that.

[Heartworm]

What happens if you go on holiday for 2/3 weeks?
A week seems like a rather short time for the permit to be valid if it is a space you are allowed to be parking in.

[wrong_turn]

Quite draconian rules. New permit every week!?

Another poster recently suggested I remove the number plates from my car which is unused at present - I think this would simply raise suspicion, and my car (and most modern cars) have the VIN on display too.

I once had to store an older car due to gearbox failure and used a cheap car cover, but that was before the continuous insurance laws. I suspect a parking warden would just lift it up to get the reg.

If it never moves someone might decide it's "abandoned" and dispose of it...

[Durzel]

wrong_turn said:

Quite draconian rules. New permit every week!?

If you read the OP again it might give an possible indication of why these draconian rules have come in to effect - i.e. residents abandoning their stboxes in visitor spaces.

[Subculture]

The car hasn’t moved for a while, so I don’t think the other residents will bat an eyelid. Some residents have taken to advertising and ‘renting’ these extra spaces and providing a spare keyfob to those who rent the space. Hence the requirement for weekly permits to try and stop this by making it inconvenient.

[Toaster Pilot]

Does your lease lay out the terms for car parking and the use of enforcement? If it doesn’t you’d probably win any court action from the private parking company but you’ll be going down a path of administrative pain to get there

[Subculture]

Toaster Pilot said:

Does your lease lay out the terms for car parking and the use of enforcement? If it doesn’t you’d probably win any court action from the private parking company but you’ll be going down a path of administrative pain to get there

The lease doesn’t say anything, and nothing about enforcement in this part of the carpark. Just gives the location of the allocated parking spot for each flat.

[Toaster Pilot]

Subculture said:

The lease doesn’t say anything, and nothing about enforcement in this part of the carpark. Just gives the location of the allocated parking spot for each flat.

Nothing in the lease at all granting you the right to park in this area then? Might be an uphill battle with the parking company if you piss them around in that case.

[paintman]

Subculture said:

After some advice if I may. I park an old car in private car park in a block of flats where I am the leaseholder. It is parked in area where parking spaces are not allocated. Residents also have a seperate allocated space. It’s a carpark where you require a fob to enter. The car the is SORN and I don’t live in the flat, and only return once a month or so for an overnight stay.

The managing agents now require everyone to display a permit ( which is free) which needs to be printed out from a residents portal and displayed in the car when parking in this section of the carpark. But you need a new permit every week as the permit is valid for 1 week at a time.

I do have a separate allocated space that does not require a permit ( got another car parked there).
They have instructed a private parking company to issue ‘fines’/invoices for cars not displaying a permit and parking in the unallocated area of the car park.

What would happen if the rear number plate were to fall off accidentally? The car is park right up to a wall and the front number plate is not viewable.

Thanks.

Email the managing agents and ask them. They're making the rules.

Don't forget to tell us what they say.

[Cold]

Buy or rent another allocated space. We have similar rules at my apartment, it can be a pain but it stops the place from getting filled up with abandoned cars or people using it as a public car park.

Our vehicles are supposed to be insured at all times, too. You may find similar restrictions in your lease.

[Graveworm]

Cold said:

Buy or rent another allocated space. We have similar rules at my apartment, it can be a pain but it stops the place from getting filled up with abandoned cars or people using it as a public car park.

Our vehicles are supposed to be insured at all times, too. You may find similar restrictions in your lease.

Nearly everywhere, I have come across the small print requires them to be "Taxed" and insured.

[NMNeil]

Subculture said:

What would happen if the rear number plate were to fall off accidentally? The car is park right up to a wall and the front number plate is not viewable.

Thanks.

The company may believe that it was dumped, and have it towed. Or the local f**sticks would consider it dumped and strip it.

[Graveworm]

Heartworm said:

What happens if you go on holiday for 2/3 weeks?
A week seems like a rather short time for the permit to be valid if it is a space you are allowed to be parking in.

Sounds like visitors, trades parking space as there are allocated residents spaces that don't require permits.

[4rephill]

Subculture said:

.....What would happen if the rear number plate were to fall off accidentally? The car is park right up to a wall and the front number plate is not viewable.

Thanks.

What is their policy on disposing of a vehicle with no registration plates on it?:

"Sorry Sir, but the vehicle you're asking about had no front number plate on it either, so it was sent to the scrapyard!"

Or maybe even:

"Sorry sir, we've no knowledge of the vehicle you're taking about!"

The problem with being a clever c**t is, it can backfire and bite you in the ar$e big time!

[MitchT]

Subculture said:

It is parked in area where parking spaces are not allocated...

... The managing agents now require everyone to display a permit ( which is free) which needs to be printed out from a residents portal and displayed in the car when parking in this section of the carpark.

Subculture said:

I do have a separate allocated space that does not require a permit (got another car parked there).

What's the status of the car that's in the allocated space? If that's not SORN too can it be moved to where you live and the SORN car moved to the allocated space at the flat?

[Drawweight]

If you’ve got 2 cars in the car park already can we assume that you arrive in another car when you stay there?

That means at a certain point you’ve got 3 cars there.

Of course it’s tempting to keep cars there if you can get away with it but you can see the other side to it as well.