360 offences

[anonymous-user]

And still spared jail...

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/notorious-...

[Dog Star]

I love the list of “rules” he has to stick to as a result of his five year ASBO; basically just a list of laws that normal people live by.

That’ll teach him, eh?

[Short Grain]

61yrs old ffs!! Didn't turn up for court first time round. Jailed last year for a 'weaponised cough' aimed at someone during the first stages of Covid!! What an absolute ahole.
Not just for that, for a list of tttish behaviour that should see him, well, ttted!

[anonymous-user]

Either he has the best solicitor in the UK or she's a real hot fox winking at the beaks.

[stablemate]

Dog Star said:

I love the list of “rules” he has to stick to as a result of his five year ASBO; basically just a list of laws that normal people live by.

That’ll teach him, eh?

Surprised they didn’t add that he’s definitely not allowed to commit fraud, burglary, and murder is a certain no no…….

Absolutely ridiculous!

[KAgantua]

He has a very well rounded criminal career to be fair...

[Psycho Warren]

Should be in prison for sure.

[Mr Miata]

I’ve always wondered what else do these kind of people need to do, to get a very lengthy prison sentence? It’s quite clear he can’t be trusted to be free and surely it’s in the public’s safety that he gets locked up.

[dudleybloke]

Tell us again how the three strikes rule is unfair.

[vaud]

dudleybloke said:

Tell us again how the three strikes rule is unfair.

Because it is often massively disproportionate.

3 strikes = 25 years for say, ABH - ok

3 strikes = 25 years for shoplifting - really?

[dudleybloke]

vaud said:

dudleybloke said:

Tell us again how the three strikes rule is unfair.

Because it is often massively disproportionate.

3 strikes = 25 years for say, ABH - ok

3 strikes = 25 years for shoplifting - really?

What about a points system based on how much the crime affects the victims?
Minor crimes where nobody gets hurt not many points, more serious crimes get a lot more points then once points have totted up then its a minimum long stretch.

[Mr Miata]

vaud said:

Because it is often massively disproportionate.

3 strikes = 25 years for say, ABH - ok

3 strikes = 25 years for shoplifting - really?

Don’t shoplift ?

[donkmeister]

I realise I'm reading an article and the magistrate actually had him up in person so is in a better position to assess him, but I can't help wondering if that guy is actually mentally ill and won't actually be able to control his behaviour. Is a ticking off with "don't do it again" going to help, or should he be sectioned?

[0ddball]

vaud said:

dudleybloke said:

Tell us again how the three strikes rule is unfair.

Because it is often massively disproportionate.

3 strikes = 25 years for say, ABH - ok

3 strikes = 25 years for shoplifting - really?

And there you have it. As long as there are people making excuses for this degenerate scum, they will always be laughing in the face of society.

I'd say 25 years for 3 counts of abh is lenient. You can't assault somebody 3 times by accident. By that point you are clearly a lifetime loser and just a waste of oxygen.

Then again, once society has broken down past a certain point, the punishments won't matter and it will be a lost cause.

[bartelbe]

donkmeister said:

I realise I'm reading an article and the magistrate actually had him up in person so is in a better position to assess him, but I can't help wondering if that guy is actually mentally ill and won't actually be able to control his behaviour. Is a ticking off with "don't do it again" going to help, or should he be sectioned?

Read the Secret Barrister, he is scathing about the quality of magistrates. The majority are not qualified and can give absolutely baffling decisions. The system is frankly broken and needs reform.

[KTMsm]

vaud said:

dudleybloke said:

Tell us again how the three strikes rule is unfair.

Because it is often massively disproportionate.

3 strikes = 25 years for say, ABH - ok

3 strikes = 25 years for shoplifting - really?

Plus being incredibly stupid for not stopping after the second conviction - seems fair enough to me

Except I don't want to pay to keep them so would prefer immediate execution

[donteatpeople]

0ddball said:

vaud said:

dudleybloke said:

Tell us again how the three strikes rule is unfair.

Because it is often massively disproportionate.

3 strikes = 25 years for say, ABH - ok

3 strikes = 25 years for shoplifting - really?

And there you have it. As long as there are people making excuses for this degenerate scum, they will always be laughing in the face of society.

I'd say 25 years for 3 counts of abh is lenient. You can't assault somebody 3 times by accident. By that point you are clearly a lifetime loser and just a waste of oxygen.

Then again, once society has broken down past a certain point, the punishments won't matter and it will be a lost cause.

It's not so much making excuses, it's just pointing out the absurdity of it. If it worked it might be worth considering, but it doesn't, it's just futile virtue signalling.

Look at the USA... they have their 3 strike system and the highest percentage of incarcerated citizens of any country in the world. Their crime rates are still nothing to be envious of.

[donkmeister]

Another problem with the three strike system is that it encourages repeat offenders to do bigger crimes.

It also encourages them to work harder to get away as the stakes are higher. Getting shot by some scumbag because I saw him nicking a pack of gum? Sod that.

[KTMsm]

donkmeister said:

It also encourages them to work harder to get away as the stakes are higher. Getting shot by some scumbag because I saw him nicking a pack of gum? Sod that.

[vaud]

donteatpeople said:

It's not so much making excuses, it's just pointing out the absurdity of it. If it worked it might be worth considering, but it doesn't, it's just futile virtue signalling.

Look at the USA... they have their 3 strike system and the highest percentage of incarcerated citizens of any country in the world. Their crime rates are still nothing to be envious of.

Exactly.

My point is that a single mum on benefits could find themselves shop lifting to feed their children if there was a delay in payments. They could be in an abusive/coercive relationship, etc.

Shoplifting 3 times deserves punishment but not life. It isn’t proportional. I’m fine with the punishment escalating each time, I just don’t think 3 strikes is the answer,