Speeding Ticket for previous Homeowner

[Hazuki]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 13 January 2025 at 14:21

[Pica-Pica]

Just keep ‘Returning to sender’.

[martinbiz]

As the registered keeper has not updated their address the 14 day rule would not apply

[Pica-Pica]

martinbiz said:

As the registered keeper has not updated their address the 14 day rule would not apply

However, the ‘failure to update your address with the DVLA’ rule would apply.

[martinbiz]

Pica-Pica said:

martinbiz said:

As the registered keeper has not updated their address the 14 day rule would not apply

However, the ‘failure to update your address with the DVLA’ rule would apply.

Not really sure of the point you are trying to make, the keeper has failed to update his/her address so any NIP that finally managed to get to them would still be valid even if delivered more than 14 days after the offence. Hence my first reply that the 14 day rule would not apply

[Pica-Pica]

martinbiz said:

Pica-Pica said:

martinbiz said:

As the registered keeper has not updated their address the 14 day rule would not apply

However, the ‘failure to update your address with the DVLA’ rule would apply.

Not really sure of the point you are trying to make, the keeper has failed to update his/her address so any NIP that finally managed to get to them would still be valid even if delivered more than 14 days after the offence. Hence my first reply that the 14 day rule would not apply

Failure to update address with DVLA can be a fine of up to £1000.

[BertBert]

To the OP, just ignore. Out in the bin. The letters aren't for you and debt collectors don't enforce statute. You won't get a knock at the door from plod.

I always find it strange that people get so worried about post for the previous occupant. Write RTS if it makes your feel better. Otherwise ignore.

Bert

[Sheepshanks]

BertBert said:

You won't get a knock at the door from plod.

We did, very late at night, when our address somehow got associated with a car that had belongied to a former neighbour who went back to the US. He’d dumped the car into a local auction and we started getting PCNs, which I returned, then next thing the police.

[megaphone]

RTS does nothing, just ends up in a big pile at Royal Mail. I would fill out the form and send it back, will probably cost you a stamp though.

[craigjm]

megaphone said:

RTS does nothing, just ends up in a big pile at Royal Mail. I would fill out the form and send it back, will probably cost you a stamp though.

This. They don’t actually get back generally and even if they do the company may not deal with them. Whenever I have moved somewhere new I open the mail and give the sender a call to have addresses removed. I know technically you shouldn’t open Mail that isn’t yours but it means the flow stops much faster

[ARHarh]

I gave up returning the previous owners mail to sender after a year of living here. 9 years on I still get mail for him, even though he has been dead for 2 years, I know this as my wife works for a funeral director and they buried him. The tax man was after his daughter for 3 or 4 years, she owed a good bit of cash. It just goes in the bin now.

[cmvtec]

I get lots of mail for the former residents of my flat.

They still live on the development, but I don't know who they are. I received their concessionary travel passes, and a note, then a letter from police regarding a lost wallet. It became quite frustrating that I couldn't help, but at the same time it's their own stupid fault for not updating information.

Their son owes a telecoms provider a significant amount of money, too.

It all goes in the bin.

[Tony1963]

At our previous place we were receiving mail for what I’d assumed was a previous owner from Churchill insurance. After returning loads with RTS on, I opened the next and had my suspicions raised by the wording on the letter.
So I called Churchill, and it turned out that the person had never lived there, he lived in London, and had used our address in rural Cambridgeshire to get cheaper insurance!
Churchill thanked me for the info, and no doubt had an investigation/cancellation to carry out.

[Paul Dishman]

ARHarh said:

I gave up returning the previous owners mail to sender after a year of living here. 9 years on I still get mail for him, even though he has been dead for 2 years, I know this as my wife works for a funeral director and they buried him.

She could drop his mail off at the cemetery next time they have a funeral there

[martinbiz]

megaphone said:

RTS does nothing, just ends up in a big pile at Royal Mail. I would fill out the form and send it back, will probably cost you a stamp though.

Why? nothing to to do with OP, not addressed to him, pointless even getting involved

[boyse7en]

megaphone said:

RTS does nothing, just ends up in a big pile at Royal Mail. I would fill out the form and send it back, will probably cost you a stamp though.

Not true.
We send c8,000 mail items per month and get about half a dozen back each month with "Address not known" or "No longer at this address" scribbled across them. We can then delete the address from our database.
So I know that at least some RTS do get back to the sender.

[martinbiz]

Pica-Pica said:

Failure to update address with DVLA can be a fine of up to £1000.

Yes, I know that, but that is nothing to do with the OP's question, they asked about the 14 day rule

[DaveH23]

We moved in back in at the start of 2019 and regularly got post from the previous owners.

As they only moved around the corner we would walk around, give them a knock, hand them their post and they said they would get it all updated.

Months went past and we would just post it through their door.

We now just write 'No longer at this address" and pop it back in the mailbox, oddly the majority seem to be from the Bank, DWP and HMRC.

Perhaps they don't want to found.

[anonymous-user]

Sheepshanks said:

BertBert said:

You won't get a knock at the door from plod.

We did, very late at night, when our address somehow got associated with a car that had belongied to a former neighbour who went back to the US. He’d dumped the car into a local auction and we started getting PCNs, which I returned, then next thing the police.

Me too - someone had registered a car to my address, a Subaru WRX - I put RTS on the logbook envelope that came to me, and posted it back, thought no more about it.

I got a knock at the door at about 11pm one Sunday a week or so later, 2 uniformed officers came in and questioned me about "my" Subaru that had been used in some sort of crime. I explained what had happened, they went on their way and I heard no more about it - but i certainy DID get a knock.

[SmoothCriminal]

Just bin the lot.
Then write to the dvla with the number plate concerned saying the reg keeper and car is no longer associated with the address, I added in a photocopied council tax bill for good measure.