Drug courier sentence .
Drug courier sentence .
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The big yin

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298 posts

70 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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JAIL SENTENCE FOR MAN STOPPED ON M74 WITH £99,000 IN COCAINE
A man has been jailed today following a significant drugs seizure in Dumfries and Galloway.
James Wightman (67) was stopped on the M74 northbound near Moffat in July 2020, as part of an investigation led by the Organised Crime Partnership (Scotland), a joint team made up of officers from Police Scotland and the National Crime Agency.
The Ford Transit van he was driving was found to contain cocaine, with an estimated street value of nearly £99,000.

Wightman had previously pled guilty at Dumfries Sheriff Court to being concerned in the supply of drugs. Today, he was sentenced to 21 months imprisonment, reduced to 14 months for an early plea.

Intelligence about Wightman's activities had been obtained during Operation Venetic – regarded as the most significant ever UK operation into serious and organised crime involving Police Scotland, the National Crime Agency and police forces across the UK. Operation Venetic culminated in the taking down of a sophisticated encrypted communications service used by criminals.

Detective Inspector Tom Gillan, of the Organised Crime Partnership (Scotland) said: “This conviction and sentencing serves as yet another example of our ongoing commitment to target the supply and distribution of controlled drugs across Scotland, which remains an absolute priority for the Organised Crime Partnership and its partners.

I am shocked at how lenient the sentence was especially with the amount of Drugs involved .21 Years would have been better .

Edited by The big yin on Thursday 2nd September 18:18

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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As you haven’t told us the sentence it’s a bit hard to agree or disagree

NewChurch

234 posts

127 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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The big yin said:
21 Years would have been better .
Why? drug laws in the UK are arbitrary.

"A new study found alcohol was the most dangerous of 20 legal and illegal drugs when the two criteria of harm to the user and harm to others were combined

ALCOHOL IS more dangerous than crack cocaine and heroin when damage to users themselves and to wider society are combined, a study has found.

The research, published yesterday in the Lancet medical journal, rated alcohol almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco and some eight times as harmful as ecstasy."

Link to full article.


anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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But … but … the government has spend generations telling us illegal drugs are bad and the billions spent on / having been spent on the complete failure that is the war on drugs are absolutely necessary.


Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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martinbiz said:
As you haven’t told us the sentence it’s a bit hard to agree or disagree
21 months reduced to 14 for an early guilty plea.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Nice beak.

Dark Star

149 posts

219 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Very short sentence for that amount.
Bet there are a few more people that have been thrown under the wheels of his transit van to get what he got.

Pit Pony

11,247 posts

150 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Pothole said:
21 months reduced to 14 for an early guilty plea.
14 months of networking and training and sharing of business ideas. Next time he shouldn't get caught.

KAgantua

5,164 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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You think 77 days is a better sentence smile

JimmyConwayNW

3,630 posts

154 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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may have informed on everyone else in his case, allowing a load of other convictions.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,016 posts

179 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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NewChurch said:
ALCOHOL IS more dangerous than crack cocaine and heroin when damage to users themselves and to wider society are combined, a study has found.
Overall, probably yes. But that doesn't paint a true picture. It's like saying the average human has less than 2 legs, because loads of people have got one or none, but how many have 3 or 4? The average human does have less than 2 legs, but that wouldn't paint an accurate picture for an alien.

Billions of people use alcohol responsibly, a glass of wine with their meal, a pint of beer. They drink from their teens until old age with no harm done to themselves or society. There are not millions of heroin users or crack cocaine users doing the same with their drug of choice.

moondogs

6 posts

78 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Overall, probably yes. But that doesn't paint a true picture. It's like saying the average human has less than 2 legs, because loads of people have got one or none, but how many have 3 or 4? The average human does have less than 2 legs, but that wouldn't paint an accurate picture for an alien.

Billions of people use alcohol responsibly, a glass of wine with their meal, a pint of beer. They drink from their teens until old age with no harm done to themselves or society. There are not millions of heroin users or crack cocaine users doing the same with their drug of choice.
There are loads of functional addicts, often middle class professionals holding down considerable habits.

Alcohol is a much bigger public health threat to this country, simply by virtue of the quantities in which it's consumed and the associated costs of healthcare, policing and social care.

This guy got caught with a fair amount, was probably just a courier and may well have given up people further up the chain. Sentence doesn't seem that unreasonable.

btdk5

1,862 posts

219 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Dark Star said:
Very short sentence for that amount.
Bet there are a few more people that have been thrown under the wheels of his transit van to get what he got.
Does it say the amount? What was the actual weight?

For shock value they always multiply out the per gram value, which is often nonsense for the person they caught.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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NewChurch said:
The big yin said:
21 Years would have been better .
Why? drug laws in the UK are arbitrary.

"A new study found alcohol was the most dangerous of 20 legal and illegal drugs when the two criteria of harm to the user and harm to others were combined

ALCOHOL IS more dangerous than crack cocaine and heroin when damage to users themselves and to wider society are combined, a study has found.

The research, published yesterday in the Lancet medical journal, rated alcohol almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco and some eight times as harmful as ecstasy."

Link to full article.
Which completely misses the harm caused by the drugs industry itself. Not just here but in many other places in the world; entire countries have been controlled by narco-terrorists at times and hundreds of thousands of people have been killed by them.

No one needs cocaine. It is a purely recreational drug and is exclusively used as such. If you shove that st up your nose you are directly responsible for those deaths and the tyranies created by these people in the lesser developed parts of the world. No one should be dishonest enough to claim otherwise.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
NewChurch said:
ALCOHOL IS more dangerous than crack cocaine and heroin when damage to users themselves and to wider society are combined, a study has found.
Overall, probably yes. But that doesn't paint a true picture. It's like saying the average human has less than 2 legs, because loads of people have got one or none, but how many have 3 or 4? The average human does have less than 2 legs, but that wouldn't paint an accurate picture for an alien.

Billions of people use alcohol responsibly, a glass of wine with their meal, a pint of beer. They drink from their teens until old age with no harm done to themselves or society. There are not millions of heroin users or crack cocaine users doing the same with their drug of choice.
And France isn't under the thumb of warring Bollinger and Moet alco-terrorists slaughtering people, running the government and murdering thousands of French peasants.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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The big yin said:
JAIL SENTENCE FOR MAN STOPPED ON M74 WITH £99,000 IN COCAINE
A man has been jailed today following a significant drugs seizure in Dumfries and Galloway.
James Wightman (67) was stopped on the M74 northbound near Moffat in July 2020, as part of an investigation led by the Organised Crime Partnership (Scotland), a joint team made up of officers from Police Scotland and the National Crime Agency.

I am shocked at how lenient the sentence was especially with the amount of Drugs involved .21 Years would have been better .
21 years or tax payer funded revenge.
And as soon as he out of the game someone else will replace him.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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sugerbear said:
21 years or tax payer funded revenge.
And as soon as he out of the game someone else will replace him.
It's easy problem to solve; six months imprisonment for anyone caught with any amount of Cocaine. No arguments, no early release. Then doubling for each subsequent offence. There will be no market for it within weeks. The problem will evaporate.

Smiljan

12,588 posts

226 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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It's really not that simple unfortunately.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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AJL308 said:
It's easy problem to solve; six months imprisonment for anyone caught with any amount of Cocaine. No arguments, no early release. Then doubling for each subsequent offence. There will be no market for it within weeks. The problem will evaporate.
What nonsense

Dave Hedgehog

16,317 posts

233 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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AJL308 said:
sugerbear said:
21 years or tax payer funded revenge.
And as soon as he out of the game someone else will replace him.
It's easy problem to solve; six months imprisonment for anyone caught with any amount of Cocaine. No arguments, no early release. Then doubling for each subsequent offence. There will be no market for it within weeks. The problem will evaporate.
really?

10s of billions have been spent on prohibition of drugs and as a result of all that money and effort we have achieved 2 things:

1) any one who wants any drugs can get them when ever they want

2) global criminal organisations worth trillion of $ have been created and often fund other dodgy activities