Asking For a Friend
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Marty Funkhouser

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5,443 posts

210 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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A mate has just taken delivery of a new car (Tesla).

3 days after taking delivery he comes back to find a deep scratch down one wing.

Checks the camera footage and its a 10yo (or thereabouts) boy with a stone. Walking behind an older man, presumably his father. Father seems completely unaware to be fair.

Is there any point at all reporting this to the Old Bill online? Even though all faces are very clear will they even bother looking in to it? Just seems grossly unfair he left with a bill to repair.

BertBert

21,248 posts

240 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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I would expect there would be not a lot that plod could do as getting identities from the CCTV could well be quite challenging even if they are inclined to try.

I am curious about the CCTV though. Is it private CCTV as I thought you could only take CCTV of your own property (within your boundary)? Or did the event occur within the boundary of a private property? Or elsewhere? As I said, just curious.

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

205 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Just some thoughts:

1) The dad almost certainly heard the scraping sound if it happened on a fairly quiet street
2) The kid may have damaged other cars
3) The dad might have some sort of legal cover which would pay for repairs if he was pressed

Personally I'd be trying to find out of any other cars were damaged and contacting other owners before contacting the police.

aparna

1,156 posts

66 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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BertBert said:
I would expect there would be not a lot that plod could do as getting identities from the CCTV could well be quite challenging even if they are inclined to try.

I am curious about the CCTV though. Is it private CCTV as I thought you could only take CCTV of your own property (within your boundary)? Or did the event occur within the boundary of a private property? Or elsewhere? As I said, just curious.
Probably sentry cam?


Marty Funkhouser

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

210 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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BertBert said:
I would expect there would be not a lot that plod could do as getting identities from the CCTV could well be quite challenging even if they are inclined to try.

I am curious about the CCTV though. Is it private CCTV as I thought you could only take CCTV of your own property (within your boundary)? Or did the event occur within the boundary of a private property? Or elsewhere? As I said, just curious.
It was parked on a public street. Apparently Teslas have cameras that are triggered whenever someone is in close proximity. No idea on the legalities of it all.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Marty Funkhouser said:
No idea on the legalities of it all.
there is no presumption to privacy in a public place.

Pixelpeep 135

8,941 posts

171 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Subject of thread said:
Asking For a Friend
Original post said:
... Actually asking for a friend
rest of PH said:
..is disappoint

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

92 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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OP yes I would report to OB as the insurer may have specific terms (possibly beneficial) to do with vandalism, and they'll want a 'crime number'.

Direct Line for example...

GranpaB

19,853 posts

65 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Marty Funkhouser said:
BertBert said:
I would expect there would be not a lot that plod could do as getting identities from the CCTV could well be quite challenging even if they are inclined to try.

I am curious about the CCTV though. Is it private CCTV as I thought you could only take CCTV of your own property (within your boundary)? Or did the event occur within the boundary of a private property? Or elsewhere? As I said, just curious.
It was parked on a public street. Apparently Teslas have cameras that are triggered whenever someone is in close proximity. No idea on the legalities of it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dos8fRzBH24

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

142 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Age 10 or over means the child is criminally responsible. In an ideal world he would be found, arrested and charged. No chance of getting money out of a child though.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Psycho Warren said:
Age 10 or over means the child is criminally responsible. In an ideal world he would be found, arrested and charged. No chance of getting money out of a child though.
turn him upside down.

Jamescrs

6,371 posts

94 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Psycho Warren said:
Age 10 or over means the child is criminally responsible. In an ideal world he would be found, arrested and charged. No chance of getting money out of a child though.
Highly unlikely he would get charged, a Juvenile caution would be the result at best which is basically a ticking off and told not to do it again

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

205 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Jamescrs said:
Psycho Warren said:
Age 10 or over means the child is criminally responsible. In an ideal world he would be found, arrested and charged. No chance of getting money out of a child though.
Highly unlikely he would get charged, a Juvenile caution would be the result at best which is basically a ticking off and told not to do it again
And you use that info to create a small claim against the dad, hopefully.

Petrus1983

11,143 posts

191 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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I’d report it personally just in the hope they could give a verbal warning and protect someone else’s car.

BertBert

21,248 posts

240 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
I’d report it personally just in the hope they could give a verbal warning and protect someone else’s car.
To whom?

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,746 posts

94 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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I'd pursue it all the way if it was me.

rfisher

5,063 posts

312 months

Monday 13th September 2021
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If there are no legal issues with cars secretly recording members of the public (including children), then presumably the owner of the vehicle can publish the video all over social meeja to find out who the child is.