Fined for letting ambulance go.
Fined for letting ambulance go.
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exelero

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2,082 posts

118 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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As above. Me and my girlfriend were going somewhere inside Birmingham town. An ambulance showed up behind with his lights on so me and the car in front of me pulled into the bus lane to let him go. A week later the ticket comes with me driving in the bus lane the other guy right in front of me. Already paid for it, but can I contest it somehow? I have no proof of it, other than my girlfriends statement and of course mine. Can I get the fine back or just let it go?
Thanks

Type R Tom

4,308 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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exelero said:
As above. Me and my girlfriend were going somewhere inside Birmingham town. An ambulance showed up behind with his lights on so me and the car in front of me pulled into the bus lane to let him go. A week later the ticket comes with me driving in the bus lane the other guy right in front of me. Already paid for it, but can I contest it somehow? I have no proof of it, other than my girlfriends statement and of course mine. Can I get the fine back or just let it go?
Thanks
I believe once you have paid it you can't appeal.

exelero

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2,082 posts

118 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Type R Tom said:
I believe once you have paid it you can't appeal.
I thought you pay and then appeal otherwise the price will be higher and higher as time passes ?

speedking31

3,913 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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The clock stops while the appeal is resolved.

Why wasn't the ambulance using the Bus Lane?

exelero

Original Poster:

2,082 posts

118 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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speedking31 said:
The clock stops while the appeal is resolved.

Why wasn't the ambulance using the Bus Lane?
I guess you’d have to ask him/her about that. If I remember right the bus lane just starts there and apart from us two there was space for the rest of the drivers to pull over

ScoobyChris

2,307 posts

231 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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speedking31 said:
The clock stops while the appeal is resolved.

Why wasn't the ambulance using the Bus Lane?
Didn't want to get a ticket biggrin

Chris

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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speedking31 said:
The clock stops while the appeal is resolved.

Why wasn't the ambulance using the Bus Lane?
In my area (Worcester) emergency vehicles tend to stick to the main lanes and vehicles move into the bus lane.

We don't have bus lane scameras.

It's only a guess but I imagine they prefer to pass on the right in case anyone panics and either shuts them off or moves over into them.

timbob

2,205 posts

281 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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A driver’s natural instinct when blue lights are coming up behind is to brake and cut in to the kerb on the left. It’s a dangerous game to go hurtling up what might seem to be the line of least resistance up the inside of cars through a seemingly empty bus lane… until a vehicle, unsighted, tries to do the right thing and turn suddenly into the bus lane in front of you.

I dislike using bus lanes. I was trained to overtake on the right - that’s what everybody naturally expects, and when driving on blue lights and seeing the cars “parting the waves” (or more often, not) in front of you it’s obviously safer, if slightly slower, to wait while each vehicle clocks you and moves over to the left.

Sometimes a car will stop suddenly and just wait in the normal driving lane, and there may be a few cars who will follow suit and just wait there. Everything else being equal, I’d still rather claim the offside and go past on the right.

On occasions I’ll use a bus lane - normally when it’s rush hour and the normal lanes are chocka in both directions. Common sense in this situation is to use the open lane - but I’ll do so slowly, with caution and fully expecting each and every car to suddenly swerve in front of me (or indeed into the side of me) as I go past.



speedking31 said:
The clock stops while the appeal is resolved.

Why wasn't the ambulance using the Bus Lane?

Donbot

4,194 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Don't move unless instructed by the police. I think they need to block traffic to make sure it is safe.

If you break traffic laws because you are concerned someone will die then that is your problem if you get fined.

Dave Hedgehog

16,317 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Donbot said:
Don't move unless instructed by the police. I think they need to block traffic to make sure it is safe.

If you break traffic laws because you are concerned someone will die then that is your problem.
yep unfortunately if you break the law driving to allow a blue light through you are fully prosecutable

daft but there it is

The big yin

298 posts

70 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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I would contact the Ambulance Service as they will have a log of the vehicle going /coming from an Emergency and times etc and try and appeal it .
I would deffo try and move out the vehicles road and if that meant onto a bus lane then fair enough .
It might not work but worth a try.

blueovercream

354 posts

120 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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A bit late for you now OP but when this happened to me, I phoned the council when I got home and explained what I had just had to do. The guy I spoke to said it's usually not an issue and sure enough - no fine despite it being right in front of the camera.

Often they supply a photo of the infringement. If you can see the ambulance in that photo, there may be grounds to appeal though as has been said, it might be too late if you've already paid.

exelero

Original Poster:

2,082 posts

118 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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The big yin said:
I would contact the Ambulance Service as they will have a log of the vehicle going /coming from an Emergency and times etc and try and appeal it .
I would deffo try and move out the vehicles road and if that meant onto a bus lane then fair enough .
It might not work but worth a try.
Thanks.

exelero

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2,082 posts

118 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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blueovercream said:
A bit late for you now OP but when this happened to me, I phoned the council when I got home and explained what I had just had to do. The guy I spoke to said it's usually not an issue and sure enough - no fine despite it being right in front of the camera.

Often they supply a photo of the infringement. If you can see the ambulance in that photo, there may be grounds to appeal though as has been said, it might be too late if you've already paid.
You can see the ambulance, just. I’ll upload the photo when I get home

exelero

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2,082 posts

118 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Donbot said:
Don't move unless instructed by the police. I think they need to block traffic to make sure it is safe.

If you break traffic laws because you are concerned someone will die then that is your problem.
yep unfortunately if you break the law driving to allow a blue light through you are fully prosecutable

daft but there it is
Do you also get fined if you’re blocking it on purpose?
That means you get fined either way whatever you do

Donbot

4,194 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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exelero said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Donbot said:
Don't move unless instructed by the police. I think they need to block traffic to make sure it is safe.

If you break traffic laws because you are concerned someone will die then that is your problem.
yep unfortunately if you break the law driving to allow a blue light through you are fully prosecutable

daft but there it is
Do you also get fined if you’re blocking it on purpose?
That means you get fined either way whatever you do
How do you block it on purpose?

exelero

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2,082 posts

118 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Donbot said:
How do you block it on purpose?
Well you can, can’t you?

Donbot

4,194 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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exelero said:
Donbot said:
How do you block it on purpose?
Well you can, can’t you?
I suppose you could cut in front of an ambulance, then swerve to stop them getting past. Or perhaps you are already in front, then make a number of moves to block the overtake. Then yeah, maybe you will be fined for that.

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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The big yin said:
I would contact the Ambulance Service as they will have a log of the vehicle going /coming from an Emergency and times etc and try and appeal it .
I would deffo try and move out the vehicles road and if that meant onto a bus lane then fair enough .
It might not work but worth a try.
No need there will be a video

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Ok if you’ve already paid it you’ve missed the boat I’m afraid. Not that it helps much now but If you’d appealed it would have been vanishingly unlike not to have been waived. I have dealt with two similar in the past year for an ambulance and fire engine and both were cancelled immediately. Ignore people saying it won’t be cancelled, it is not a criminal offence as it would be if say you moved over a red light stop line to make way, it’s just a pcn