Selling an untaxed car
Selling an untaxed car
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popegregory

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1,915 posts

163 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Absolutely hypothetical

I can’t find the V5C anywhere. My tax is up on 31/10 and I can’t renew it owing to no MoT (as the engine is currently being rebuilt). I can’t SORN the car owing to not finding the V5C. I don’t receive V111s as it was taxed via DD. I rang the DVLA today to sort it as I always assumed calling the people responsible for vehicle registrations would cost me half an hour waiting for someone to answer but they could sort it for me. They said they can’t but they could send me a new logbook for £25. They also said I will probably get an £80 fine for having an untaxed car.

Dad has said how much he likes the car and offered a strong bid of a pound. If I write to the DVLA with all the details of the new keeper, recorded delivery to show it being sent prior to 1/11, am I in the clear?

ETA insurance faffing probably negates the potential benefits

ETA 2; this was written in anger. In best Partridge voice “scrap that Lynne, I think that’s possibly the worst idea I’ve ever had”.

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sixor8

8,510 posts

297 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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The DVLA will require a V5c to be completed for a transfer of ownership, normally. However, V5c documents are regularly lost (somehow...), I often see cars for sale at auction with no V5c. A new owner can fill in the application form for a new V5c and pay the £25.

I would suggest you do that if you fully intend to sell it. As for getting a fine, it won't be immediate. If the VED ran out 30th Sept, you should just get a red letter first. If it runs out on Sunday (31st Oct), there's time to get a replacement V5c and then declare it SORN before any fines arrive.

popegregory

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

163 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Cheers. I’ll do it tonight and email them to explain. Absolutely stunned by inability of department with responsibility for registering vehicles to be unable to deal with a matter regarding a vehicle registration, I’d been putting it off as I was that sure it was a straightforward job when I called them.

Camelot1971

2,848 posts

195 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Love the irony of blaming the DVLA for your inability to keep something as simple as a V5C. Bravo.

popegregory

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

163 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Camelot1971 said:
Love the irony of blaming the DVLA for your inability to keep something as simple as a V5C. Bravo.
I know mate. Wish I was ace like you biggrin

littleredrooster

6,360 posts

225 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Camelot1971 said:
Love the irony of blaming the DVLA for your inability to keep something as simple as a V5C. Bravo.
But at least he understands the basics of tax & SORN now…

Spleen

5,453 posts

150 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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popegregory said:
Camelot1971 said:
Love the irony of blaming the DVLA for your inability to keep something as simple as a V5C. Bravo.
I know mate. Wish I was ace like you biggrin
I think we all do based on that bon mot.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Spleen said:
I think we all do based on that bon mot.
OP says the car doesn't have a mot smile

Bill

58,619 posts

284 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Have you also lost the tax reminder? That has a code so no V5 needed IIRC.

Suspect the rude reminder also does.


popegregory

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

163 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Bill said:
Have you also lost the tax reminder? That has a code so no V5 needed IIRC.

Suspect the rude reminder also does.
Taxed by DD so no reminder. Rude reminder owing to lapsed MoT had absolutely nothing on it and 16 digit codes from previous reminders are all no longer valid - it’s V5C or nothing. Which I now brilliantly can’t find.

Yes, misplacing V5C is silly but inability of DVLA to help has astounded me. I’ll pay £25 for another but I’m understandably reluctant to pay an £80 fine. Especially on a car I’ve been taxing since February to not drive smile

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Tommo87

5,457 posts

142 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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littleredrooster said:
Camelot1971 said:
Love the irony of blaming the DVLA for your inability to keep something as simple as a V5C. Bravo.
But at least he understands the basics of tax & SORN now…
It’s a shame, though. He could have avoided the effort.

popegregory

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

163 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Tommo87 said:
littleredrooster said:
Camelot1971 said:
Love the irony of blaming the DVLA for your inability to keep something as simple as a V5C. Bravo.
But at least he understands the basics of tax & SORN now…
It’s a shame, though. He could have avoided the effort.
Something he is painfully aware of!

Spare tyre

12,546 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Did you take a picture of the docs in the past, I do that and it gets me out of bother all the time