YouTubers / Camera Footage etc
YouTubers / Camera Footage etc
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Candellara

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1,890 posts

211 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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As a fairly avid follower of various popular motoring you tube channels i cannot help but think that the driving in alot of footage must draw attention from the bib?

Plenty of footage whereby they are "road testing" certain cars and quite clearly using the "whole of the road", redlining in many gears so exceeding speed limits although the speedo is not in view, driving very "enthusiastically" in corners etc

What happens here? In the society in which we live i am sure there are plenty of "do gooders" only too happy to vent their displeasure at such driving on camera and report it accordingly. What view do the authorities take on this?

The amount of videos whereby popular youtubers are regularly clocking over 200mph on foreign roads surely cannot have escaped the attention of the authorities?

Just interested in the general consensus.

My assumption is that unless the Bib actually have their own footage and the car is stopped during such an event that it's totally subjective as to the standard of driving?

Edited by Candellara on Thursday 4th November 19:04

QBee

22,456 posts

173 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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Comment on a TV program I watched the other night - "over 25% of all dash-cam footage handed to police results in a prosecution".

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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If they have any sense then they are probably not showing shots of the speedo, etc yet you'll get a sense of the speed/excess from the scenery whizzing by.

To answer your broader question if these "do gooders" (i.e. people reporting muppets flagrantly taking the p on the public road) then they'd be as fair game for prosecution as anyone else on the road. The Police wouldn't have to rely on prosecuting at a specific speed if the excess was obvious.

mgv8

1,657 posts

300 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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Candellara said:
The amount of videos whereby popular youtubers are regularly clocking over 200mph on foreign roads surely cannot have escaped the attention of the authorities?

Edited by Candellara on Thursday 4th November 19:04
There are not so many cars that will do over 200mph and very few roads where you can do that (space and straight).


waynecyclist

14,654 posts

143 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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mgv8 said:
Candellara said:
The amount of videos whereby popular youtubers are regularly clocking over 200mph on foreign roads surely cannot have escaped the attention of the authorities?

Edited by Candellara on Thursday 4th November 19:04
There are not so many cars that will do over 200mph and very few roads where you can do that (space and straight).
One youtuber did post a vmax video last week in which he hit 205mph but it was on a derestricted autobahn section, to be fair all his videos with high speed are on the autobahn and only when it is safe to do so.





Edited by waynecyclist on Friday 5th November 11:28

Candellara

Original Poster:

1,890 posts

211 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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My post wasn't really directed at regular joe public dash cam footage but youtubers own footage of them road testing cars etc

Some of the major YouTubers driving is quite clearly outside of the realms of the law / highway code and i wonder if they are ever taken to task by the authorities?

Another popular activity is YouTubers filming the exit of car meets. Obviously some pretty heavy footed action here - does anyone ever get a knock on the door from the bib?

A great example here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aioZ-Egju7Q&t=...

Most of the reg plates are hidden but many aren't.

Candellara

Original Poster:

1,890 posts

211 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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waynecyclist said:
One youtuber did post a vmax video last week in which he hit 205mph but it was on a derestricted autobahn section

Edited by waynecyclist on Friday 5th November 11:22
Yep, i saw that. Obviously legal but can't help but think that the authorities must take a fairly dim view on such behaviour?

waynecyclist

14,654 posts

143 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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Candellara said:
waynecyclist said:
One youtuber did post a vmax video last week in which he hit 205mph but it was on a derestricted autobahn section

Edited by waynecyclist on Friday 5th November 11:22
Yep, i saw that. Obviously legal but can't help but think that the authorities must take a fairly dim view on such behaviour?
Why would they, if it is safe and legal to travel at those speeds, I do not really see any issue.

Wax1234

524 posts

203 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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Candellara said:
Yep, i saw that. Obviously legal but can't help but think that the authorities must take a fairly dim view on such behaviour?
How can they take a ‘dim’ view on someone doing something legal?

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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Candellara said:
My post wasn't really directed at regular joe public dash cam footage but youtubers own footage of them road testing cars etc

Some of the major YouTubers driving is quite clearly outside of the realms of the law / highway code and i wonder if they are ever taken to task by the authorities?

Another popular activity is YouTubers filming the exit of car meets. Obviously some pretty heavy footed action here - does anyone ever get a knock on the door from the bib?

A great example here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aioZ-Egju7Q&t=...

Most of the reg plates are hidden but many aren't.
I doubt anyone can give you a definitive answer.

I'd imagine unless something significant occurs (e.g. a crash) then people blasting out of a car meet for ~10 seconds is probably not going to result in a prosecution, based solely on YT footage. It could, I guess, if they were so inclined.

It's not unusual for the Police to catch wind of meets and park up nearby anyway, and in those circumstances I imagine it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

donkmeister

12,843 posts

129 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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I'd be interested to know if insurers watch the Rufford Ford videos and note down the registrations of those who have been clearly stupid...

I think the reality is that if insurance companies don't have the time and inclination to watch YT videos to go "aha, A123BCD, that's one of ours and they drove it through a clearly-signposted 2-feet of water!", then the police probably don't have the time to watch all the videos either.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

141 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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donkmeister said:
I'd be interested to know if insurers watch the Rufford Ford videos and note down the registrations of those who have been clearly stupid...

I think the reality is that if insurance companies don't have the time and inclination to watch YT videos to go "aha, A123BCD, that's one of ours and they drove it through a clearly-signposted 2-feet of water!", then the police probably don't have the time to watch all the videos either.
In fairness if they were a possibility they are likely to try and use automated tools for such means, admiral were obviously going to price insurance based on social media activity captured by IBM's Watson tool beneath the skin which can make sense of a lot of big data which might be structured and unstructured data. For many insurers this will then be brought into view by a Master Data Management tool bringing together various silos of data into one platform and as per the usual industry term "a single view of XXXX" in this case, the X being customer.

This is how insurers can have in essence unconnected elements of products, but will have a global view of your account and how one CS representative can usually deal with your home, car etc. insurance as the MDM platform will bring together the various systems and sources of that data. Depending on seniority then masking can ensure privacy and security of specific areas.

Within most insurers you are likely to see IBM (probably a combination of Infosphere and a few other elements like Watson) or the main rival Informatica.

AngryPartsBloke

1,439 posts

180 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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anonymous said:
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Didn't Joe Achillies get successful prosecuted using his YouTube video...

Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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QBee said:
Comment on a TV program I watched the other night - "over 25% of all dash-cam footage handed to police results in a prosecution".
I would bet my house on it being nowhere near that many.

Look at the total non-events that make it onto most UK dashcam compilations and then realise that if people thought that boring rubbish was worth uploading how many similar are given to the police.

I bet it's probably not even 10%.

Spare tyre

12,546 posts

159 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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There’s a couple of you tubers I have seen

Ryan Taylor - simply does what the hell he wants whilst driving and filming it. How he has a licence I will never know

Ally law . Just never pays attention whilst filing it

Marzbarvlogs films himself driving with a dslr, not paying attention, occasionally films himself driving whilst also flying a drone


Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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Ninja59 said:
In fairness if they were a possibility they are likely to try and use automated tools for such means, admiral were obviously going to price insurance based on social media activity captured by IBM's Watson tool beneath the skin which can make sense of a lot of big data which might be structured and unstructured data. For many insurers this will then be brought into view by a Master Data Management tool bringing together various silos of data into one platform and as per the usual industry term "a single view of XXXX" in this case, the X being customer.

This is how insurers can have in essence unconnected elements of products, but will have a global view of your account and how one CS representative can usually deal with your home, car etc. insurance as the MDM platform will bring together the various systems and sources of that data. Depending on seniority then masking can ensure privacy and security of specific areas.

Within most insurers you are likely to see IBM (probably a combination of Infosphere and a few other elements like Watson) or the main rival Informatica.
There is no way on earth insurers are ingesting YouTube data to find vehicles they insure driving poorly.

There is a clear use for pulling data they hold in different systems into one view so an agent can deal with multiple aspects of a query. This is much less clear for more “blue sky thinking” use cases like scraping YouTube. Before you even get to whether there would be a legally sound reason to pull that data in.

Mr Miata

1,220 posts

79 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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anonymous said:
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Yet if Auditing Britain stands outside a police station with a camera (which is perfectly legal). The police magically find the resources to send several police officers over to him in minutes.

I wish AB filmed in a high crime area. We might get police turn up then laugh

Edited by Mr Miata on Sunday 7th November 14:55

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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Mr Miata said:
Yet if Auditing Britain stands outside a police station with a camera (which is perfectly legal).
It may be legal but it’s bloody stupid. 90% of the planning for a terrorism attack would be legal activity, doesn’t mean it isn’t weird or suspicious.

BobSaunders

3,110 posts

184 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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Dingu said:
Ninja59 said:
In fairness if they were a possibility they are likely to try and use automated tools for such means, admiral were obviously going to price insurance based on social media activity captured by IBM's Watson tool beneath the skin which can make sense of a lot of big data which might be structured and unstructured data. For many insurers this will then be brought into view by a Master Data Management tool bringing together various silos of data into one platform and as per the usual industry term "a single view of XXXX" in this case, the X being customer.

This is how insurers can have in essence unconnected elements of products, but will have a global view of your account and how one CS representative can usually deal with your home, car etc. insurance as the MDM platform will bring together the various systems and sources of that data. Depending on seniority then masking can ensure privacy and security of specific areas.

Within most insurers you are likely to see IBM (probably a combination of Infosphere and a few other elements like Watson) or the main rival Informatica.
There is no way on earth insurers are ingesting YouTube data to find vehicles they insure driving poorly.

There is a clear use for pulling data they hold in different systems into one view so an agent can deal with multiple aspects of a query. This is much less clear for more “blue sky thinking” use cases like scraping YouTube. Before you even get to whether there would be a legally sound reason to pull that data in.
Incorrect. We have a system that regularly pulls social media searches for fraud - you stick something on the internet, it's public domain. You make a claim or someone makes a claim against you it gets scraped and reviewed. Whilst it may not show that in a specific claim someone was driving like a bell, it will show history or driving standards, which may or may not make it's way to legal for them to decide to not pay out and subsquently fight it. Saw a demo of it, it was properly cool.

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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BobSaunders said:
Dingu said:
Ninja59 said:
In fairness if they were a possibility they are likely to try and use automated tools for such means, admiral were obviously going to price insurance based on social media activity captured by IBM's Watson tool beneath the skin which can make sense of a lot of big data which might be structured and unstructured data. For many insurers this will then be brought into view by a Master Data Management tool bringing together various silos of data into one platform and as per the usual industry term "a single view of XXXX" in this case, the X being customer.

This is how insurers can have in essence unconnected elements of products, but will have a global view of your account and how one CS representative can usually deal with your home, car etc. insurance as the MDM platform will bring together the various systems and sources of that data. Depending on seniority then masking can ensure privacy and security of specific areas.

Within most insurers you are likely to see IBM (probably a combination of Infosphere and a few other elements like Watson) or the main rival Informatica.
There is no way on earth insurers are ingesting YouTube data to find vehicles they insure driving poorly.

There is a clear use for pulling data they hold in different systems into one view so an agent can deal with multiple aspects of a query. This is much less clear for more “blue sky thinking” use cases like scraping YouTube. Before you even get to whether there would be a legally sound reason to pull that data in.
Incorrect. We have a system that regularly pulls social media searches for fraud - you stick something on the internet, it's public domain. You make a claim or someone makes a claim against you it gets scraped and reviewed. Saw a demo of it, it was properly cool.
You’re scraping the content of the actual video are you? The person driving badly in some of the examples given are not the person being insured. So social media isn’t going to flag it up, you’ll need to be scraping millions of hours of video to capture that.

ETA I’m not disputing a targeted search could be done. But routinely and proactively scraping huge volumes of data, including YouTube video content, without having a person of interest wouldn’t be a proportional thing to do.