Electronic SLOW DOWN sign
Electronic SLOW DOWN sign
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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

290 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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There's a new electronic sign looking a bit like this just outside Booker airfield as you head towards Marlow.


It has an image of a 30 limit sign and says SLOW DOWN as you approach at over 30. But the road is currently a 40 limit, what's going on here? There's a junction and a bend shortly after the sign, so reason to slow down, but why imply a compulsory 30 limit when there isn't one?

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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I think it’s part of the anti Brake movement to encourage people to drive faster.

If the signs don’t flash up, you’re not going fast enough!

Definitely a target.

page3

5,190 posts

280 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Well, the long stretch of road from West Wycombe to Stokenchurch (currently a 60) is being reduced to 50 mph. There was public consultation, however they have decided to ignore that and reduce the speed limit anyway. The recent accident involving two cyclists is often quoted, however the conclusion just out from the court case was that speed was not a contributing factor.

In conclusion, expect the limit to drop shortly.

Super Sonic

14,222 posts

83 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
There's a new electronic sign looking a bit like this just outside Booker airfield as you head towards Marlow.


It has an image of a 30 limit sign and says SLOW DOWN as you approach at over 30...., ...but why imply a compulsory 30 limit when there isn't one?
That sign doesn't imply a compulsory speed limit, it categorically states a speed limit of 30, hence the red circle.

Dr Jekyll

Original Poster:

23,820 posts

290 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Super Sonic said:
Dr Jekyll said:
There's a new electronic sign looking a bit like this just outside Booker airfield as you head towards Marlow.


It has an image of a 30 limit sign and says SLOW DOWN as you approach at over 30...., ...but why imply a compulsory 30 limit when there isn't one?
That sign doesn't imply a compulsory speed limit, it categorically states a speed limit of 30, hence the red circle.
I don't see what point you are trying to make, I used the word 'imply' because the limit is actually 40.

The existence of a sign categorically stating a speed limit of 30 does kind of imply the limit is actually 30, just as the existence of repeater signs a few yards away on the same stretch of road saying 40 implies the limit is 40.

DodgyGeezer

48,985 posts

219 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
There's a new electronic sign looking a bit like this just outside Booker airfield as you head towards Marlow.


It has an image of a 30 limit sign and says SLOW DOWN as you approach at over 30. But the road is currently a 40 limit, what's going on here? There's a junction and a bend shortly after the sign, so reason to slow down, but why imply a compulsory 30 limit when there isn't one?
I suspect there is your answer....

RB Will

10,831 posts

269 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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I just wish they would calibrate them properly. Got a couple near me that go all flashy and telling you off when you go past at 25mph in a 30.

BertBert

21,245 posts

240 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Super Sonic said:
That sign doesn't imply a compulsory speed limit, it categorically states a speed limit of 30, hence the red circle.
It doesn't. It cannot possibly comply with the signage regs. Especially in a series of 40mph signs/repeaters an electric sign that isn't on all the time will not produce an enforceable 30mph limit.

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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I reckon some of them are screwed down to match your speedo dial rather than a true 30 or whatever.
An actual speed of around 3mph lower than dial speed seems to be the norm.

Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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BertBert said:
Super Sonic said:
That sign doesn't imply a compulsory speed limit, it categorically states a speed limit of 30, hence the red circle.
It doesn't. It cannot possibly comply with the signage regs. Especially in a series of 40mph signs/repeaters an electric sign that isn't on all the time will not produce an enforceable 30mph limit.
So all the electric red ringed 20 mph signs with flashing amber lights around schools that operate only at school entry and exit time are unenforceable?

Sheepshanks

40,965 posts

148 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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BertBert said:
Super Sonic said:
That sign doesn't imply a compulsory speed limit, it categorically states a speed limit of 30, hence the red circle.
It doesn't. It cannot possibly comply with the signage regs. Especially in a series of 40mph signs/repeaters an electric sign that isn't on all the time will not produce an enforceable 30mph limit.
It does categorically state a speed limit of 30 - we can see it in the picture! But it's not legally enforceable.

Sheepshanks

40,965 posts

148 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
So all the electric red ringed 20 mph signs with flashing amber lights around schools that operate only at school entry and exit time are unenforceable?
Correct. They're advisory.

Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
Pica-Pica said:
So all the electric red ringed 20 mph signs with flashing amber lights around schools that operate only at school entry and exit time are unenforceable?
Correct. They're advisory.
Provide me an official link, please.

Sheepshanks

40,965 posts

148 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
Provide me an official link, please.
What's in it for me? I know they're advisory, I don't need to prove anything.

fatjon

2,299 posts

242 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
Pica-Pica said:
Provide me an official link, please.
What's in it for me? I know they're advisory, I don't need to prove anything.
Perfect answer. Also get's on my tits when people ask me to do their research for them.

BertBert

21,245 posts

240 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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fatjon said:
Perfect answer. Also get's on my tits when people ask me to do their research for them.
Gets on mine too biggrin

Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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BertBert said:
fatjon said:
Perfect answer. Also get's on my tits when people ask me to do their research for them.
Gets on mine too biggrin
Gets on my tits when people make assertions without providing evidence that they clearly have accessed, just sloppy. But then again, there’s nothing in it for me, so I will ignore them.
(Oh, it’s hardly research is it?)
Come on, enlighten us unworthy subjects!

Edited by Pica-Pica on Monday 6th December 13:42

Volvolover

2,036 posts

70 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
BertBert said:
fatjon said:
Perfect answer. Also get's on my tits when people ask me to do their research for them.
Gets on mine too biggrin
Gets on my tits when people make assertions without providing evidence that they clearly have accessed, just sloppy. But then again, there’s nothing in it for me, so I will ignore them.
(Oh, it’s hardly research is it?)
You'll also get the next bell-end coming along telling you to "educate yourself" because they've spent 30 seconds on google and are now a leading expert....

BertBert

21,245 posts

240 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Volvolover said:
You'll also get the next bell-end coming along telling you to "educate yourself" because they've spent 30 seconds on google and are now a leading expert....
Plus all the conveyors of stereotypes and random non sequiturs

skilly1

2,900 posts

224 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
Gets on my tits when people make assertions without providing evidence that they clearly have accessed, just sloppy. But then again, there’s nothing in it for me, so I will ignore them.
(Oh, it’s hardly research is it?)
Come on, enlighten us unworthy subjects!

Edited by Pica-Pica on Monday 6th December 13:42
MANDATORY SPEED LIMITS AND SIGNS
All road signs that utilize the circular red ring are mandatory, or road signs giving orders. A
motorists must abide by the instructions given in these regulatory signs to remain within the
law.
ADVISORY SPEED LIMITS
Advisory speed limits are used on a stretch of road that is potentially hazardous. The
location of an advisory maximum speed limit sign varies, but can often bee seen on bends.
As the advisory speed limit is not contained within a red ring, it is the motorists choice of
whether they obey the advised speed limit or not, providing they do not exceed the
maximum regulatory speed limit