Which limit?
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Glenn63

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3,917 posts

113 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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So couple times in the last few weeks Iv been on the motorways and come to roadworks with the temporary roadwork speed limit signs up at the side of the road saying ‘50’ but then few 100 yards later the over head ‘smart’ motorway gantry is saying ‘60’ and then you go past one or the other till the end of the roadworks ‘50’ signs.
Iv been in the truck so won’t be near 60 anyways but just curious how that would fly if you got pulled for doing over 50 say?
Iv also seen roadwork ‘50’ signs but gantrys at ‘40’.

Obviously the sensible answer is keep to the lower limit, but as this is PH powerfully built stomping ground then the answer is stay at 99mph cruise to avoid a ban but keep maximum average speed.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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Some say its easy to know the answer https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Magnum 475

4,153 posts

161 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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This keeps coming up……

Which limit do you think will be enforced by plod?? Here’s a hint: it won’t be the higher of the two!

Stick with the lowest, unless you want a NIP.


Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Who says it wont be the higher one of the two? Reality is until someone can say they have been done at a speed between the two we dont know what speed limit will be enforced. Even if the lower one is enforced and tickets are issued there then comes the question as to what happens if it is challenged.

The very fact that it keeps coming up suggests there is enough confusion for the drivers legal representative to claim the lower limit is not enforceable.


normalbloke

8,856 posts

248 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
Who says it wont be the higher one of the two? Reality is until someone can say they have been done at a speed between the two we dont know what speed limit will be enforced. Even if the lower one is enforced and tickets are issued there then comes the question as to what happens if it is challenged.

The very fact that it keeps coming up suggests there is enough confusion for the drivers legal representative to claim the lower limit is not enforceable.
Which limit would you follow in that scenario?

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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normalbloke said:
Which limit would you follow in that scenario?
The question isnt which limit would one follow but which one is legally enforceable

T5R+

1,226 posts

238 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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"As a rule" - will always go by the "live" matrix display. This to me seems to be the most upto date and "real" information at Highways disposal.

There are 2 things that I cannot figure out
  • amber font/text versus white - what is the difference and why amber versus white?
  • when "40" displayed across all lanes and I am in L1 or live running HS......why do I feel vulnerable as the slowest vehicle on the road?

paddy1970

1,466 posts

138 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
Who says it wont be the higher one of the two? Reality is until someone can say they have been done at a speed between the two we dont know what speed limit will be enforced. Even if the lower one is enforced and tickets are issued there then comes the question as to what happens if it is challenged.

The very fact that it keeps coming up suggests there is enough confusion for the drivers legal representative to claim the lower limit is not enforceable.
You could try the upper one and tell us all...

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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T5R+ said:
"As a rule" - will always go by the "live" matrix display. This to me seems to be the most upto date and "real" information at Highways disposal.

There are 2 things that I cannot figure out
  • amber font/text versus white - what is the difference and why amber versus white?
It looks as if the amber font is not legally enforceable https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/sched...

"1. Information or a restriction of a description in column 2 of an item in the Part 2 sign table must be conveyed by a sign which—

(a)is of the colour and type; and
(b)complies with the requirements as to size,shown in the diagram in column 3 of the item, or that diagram as varied in accordance with column 4."

The picture shows a circular sign with a red border, white background and black font.


Big Al.

69,336 posts

287 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
Some say its easy to know the answer https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Appears we already have a thread running on this.

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