Advice regarding jury service please
Advice regarding jury service please
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Nigel Worc's

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8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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I received a letter just after Christmas informing me I have been selected for jury service in February of this year.

It is not convenient for me to do so, as it would require me to shut my small Ltd company for two weeks.

I applied to be excused, and despite explaining that we are a two man company and my friend and business partner suffered a stroke on 30th June 2021 my application has been refused.

It would appear that I am being 'ordered' to attend, and I don't wish to.

Does anyone have experience of this stuff please ?

Apparently I can appeal and will do so tomorrow.

Quite where these people get this authority to tell me in less than a month I must close my business for two weeks, just to suit them, I am unsure of.

fourstardan

6,522 posts

173 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Nigel Worc's said:
I received a letter just after Christmas informing me I have been selected for jury service in February of this year.

It is not convenient for me to do so, as it would require me to shut my small Ltd company for two weeks.

I applied to be excused, and despite explaining that we are a two man company and my friend and business partner suffered a stroke on 30th June 2021 my application has been refused.

It would appear that I am being 'ordered' to attend, and I don't wish to.

Does anyone have experience of this stuff please ?

Apparently I can appeal and will do so tomorrow.

Quite where these people get this authority to tell me in less than a month I must close my business for two weeks, just to suit them, I am unsure of.
These people lol....

Looks like you are going to have to suck it up.

PushedDover

7,492 posts

82 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Very similar OP,
Zero negotiation on there side i got a : Tough, pick any three convenient dates.


I start 17th January.
Deep joy, two weeks in a mask down town, versus the day job WFH.

trickywoo

14,143 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Nigel Worc's said:
as it would require me to shut my small Ltd company for two weeks.
You need to make it very clear it will directly affect your livelihood. People have been excused for much less.

joshcowin

7,590 posts

205 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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I've done it, it's important, you will be part of the judicial system in this country, if you were a defendant would you want only people who want to be jurors or a fair and honest mix of all types of people?

The case I sat on was pretty heavy and involved someone going to prison for over a decade.

I was due to go into a people trafficking case but the judge laid out that it was expected to run into 3 weeks and if anyone couldn't commit to that then please excuse yourself.


Nigel Worc's

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8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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trickywoo said:
You need to make it very clear it will directly affect your livelihood. People have been excused for much less.
I thought I had, in fact I know I did as I have a copy.

I will appeal today.

InvisibleSpider

167 posts

188 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Nigel Worc's said:
trickywoo said:
You need to make it very clear it will directly affect your livelihood. People have been excused for much less.
I thought I had, in fact I know I did as I have a copy.

I will appeal today.
I hope you manage to sort it. I have previously been excused from Jury service on a very similar basis - small business, I was the only other employee (other than the boss). Me being off for two weeks was unsustainable for the business. I was excused. Best of luck to you.

Kyodo

753 posts

153 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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I've been excused from jury service twice over the past 15 years or so. I'm self employed so if I'm not working, I don't get paid, end of story. I requested a couple of my clients supplied brief letters explaining my role to their businesses as I play a support role to them (website development, hosting & support).

Whilst I understand the need for jury service, there are of course a great many people where it simply isn't suitable. My wife got called up and found it interesting but for me personally it's a non-starter.

BoRED S2upid

21,046 posts

269 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Can you defer to a more convenient date? We all get to do it at some point in life.

Starfighter

5,347 posts

207 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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How do you manage time off for holiday?

sociopath

3,433 posts

95 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Starfighter said:
How do you manage time off for holiday?
Did you skip over the bit where the OP said their business partner had had a stroke?

I'm guessing that's not an annual occurrence

P675

875 posts

61 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Do odd things in public that gain you police attention (but not actually arrested), and give them your details. When it comes to jury selection they will see all these interactions with police and decide you're not a good fit.

PushedDover

7,492 posts

82 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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make sure you dont catch Covid anytime just beforehand either

BoRED S2upid

21,046 posts

269 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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PushedDover said:
make sure you dont catch Covid anytime just beforehand either
That’s possibly a way out. A positive lateral flow test and job done. Kids have been faking positive tests to get a week off school since the start.

B235r

408 posts

78 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Your mistake was replying to the letter then they know they have a live one

Mine when in the big green filing cabinet


Nigel Worc's

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8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Starfighter said:
How do you manage time off for holiday?
I haven't had one since June 30th 2021, including Christmas......I just got the Saturday and Sunday off, as in our line of work some factories are still open, and the ones that are closed do maintenance during shut down.

I do have the odd free day, I just think it is unreasonable to expect me to shut my business for two weeks at the whim of the judiciary.

Nigel Worc's

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8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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B235r said:
Your mistake was replying to the letter then they know they have a live one

Mine when in the big green filing cabinet
You know that is a good point, it was dated 16/12/21 and didn't reach me until the 27th.

I just thought I'd reply as I had a good reason to be excused, I actually now wish I'd thought of that given their attitude so far.

boyse7en

8,171 posts

194 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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I was due to do Jury service starting on 4th Jan but had an email over xmas telling me not to attend as it was postponed, then another email a day later saying my jury service was now considered complete and that they wouldn't be calling me.
Pity, i was quite looking forward to it. It's always a serious case if its a Crown Court - anything that would attract a sentence of less than 3 years (i think) is done at a magistrates court.


Nigel Worc's

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8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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anonymous said:
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Not much use to me if I'm supposed to be in a factory somewhere.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Thursday 6th January 2022
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Of course why happens is people excuse themselves from attending jury service. We then get cases like the Colston statue in Bristol and people wonder why