Can you park in front of someone's 'extended' dropped kerb?
Can you park in front of someone's 'extended' dropped kerb?
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Fastra

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4,289 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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Key word here is 'extended'.

Yes, I can fnd local authority advice on how it's illegal to park in front of someones dropped kerb/drive, but can't find anything that really relates to extended dropped kerbs.

Just been having a chat with a neighbour from round the corner who was commenting on my immediate neighbours recently converted garden - they've had it all tiled so instead of a one car drive they now have a three car drive that covers the whole width of their property, and they've had the existing dropped kerb extended (by the council) to cover this also.

I have no problem with this at all, and to me it's obvious that you don't park their.
He was old school, and had it in his head that the only legal bit you can't park over is the original one car width.
Even though I told him they had planning permission from the council and you would assume the original 'can't park over the one car width bit' is now applied to the new 'three car bit' - but no it wasn't having it and still thought it was legal to park.

He's not right is he?

SmoothCriminal

5,938 posts

228 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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He's an idiot.

What happens if there was never a dropped and then they had one put in.

He would go and park over it because it wasn't there when the houses were constructed, moron.

Zarco

20,976 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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He's an idiot.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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The "neighbour" lol is an idiot 🤣

98elise

32,539 posts

190 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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SmoothCriminal said:
He's an idiot.

What happens if there was never a dropped and then they had one put in.

He would go and park over it because it wasn't there when the houses were constructed, moron.
This. Rules apply based on the changes, not what was there before.

donkmeister

12,841 posts

129 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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I must applaud the person who has gone to the effort and expense of actually extending their dropped kerb to fit their driveway.

My SIL lives on a street where people have extended their driveways sideways, and just sort of "dominate the frontage" rather than taking both cars through the single width drop. Plenty of room to do so but they choose to bounce up and down kerbs instead.

Surprisingly it's not one of those modern estates where people have running battles over who is allowed to park where.

bigandclever

14,347 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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Fastra said:
He's not right is he?
In the head, no.

pigeyman

1,187 posts

130 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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No. You can't park in front of someone's driveway.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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JQ

6,787 posts

208 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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Ask him if it's ok for you start parking in front of his dropped kerb. After all, at some point in the past his house and drive won't have been there.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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OP Did you bother to get your car back ?
Wouldnt of thought it was worth the tow cost by the looks of it

Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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My understanding is that it is illegal to block someone in, but not illegal to block someone out. However, I personally would not do either.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
My understanding is that it is illegal to block someone in, but not illegal to block someone out. However, I personally would not do either.
Blocking someone in would be an unlawful wilful obstruction, blocking someone out wouldn't be.
There are also usually separate council bye laws, dealt with by council PCN, for parking across (any part of) a dropped kerb.

Fastra

Original Poster:

4,289 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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Curledge said:
OP Did you bother to get your car back ?
Wouldnt of thought it was worth the tow cost by the looks of it
Eh?

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

68 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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gottans said:
I'm really surprised the police did something.

Edited by Ouroboros on Saturday 15th January 17:11

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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vonhosen said:
Pica-Pica said:
My understanding is that it is illegal to block someone in, but not illegal to block someone out. However, I personally would not do either.
Blocking someone in would be an unlawful wilful obstruction, blocking someone out wouldn't be.
There are also usually separate council bye laws, dealt with by council PCN, for parking across (any part of) a dropped kerb.
They park a Fiat 500 on there. Is it lawful to block it it? It isn't a drive it's a front patio.

I need to check if PP for a dropped kerb was rejected a couple of years ago or if they just didn't pay to do it.
Must hurt the wheels been smashed up there frequently.

SmoothCriminal

5,938 posts

228 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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speedyguy said:
vonhosen said:
Pica-Pica said:
My understanding is that it is illegal to block someone in, but not illegal to block someone out. However, I personally would not do either.
Blocking someone in would be an unlawful wilful obstruction, blocking someone out wouldn't be.
There are also usually separate council bye laws, dealt with by council PCN, for parking across (any part of) a dropped kerb.
They park a Fiat 500 on there. Is it lawful to block it it? It isn't a drive it's a front patio.

I need to check if PP for a dropped kerb was rejected a couple of years ago or if they just didn't pay to do it.
Must hurt the wheels been smashed up there frequently.
Nothing wrong legally with parking infront of that, no dropped and they're actually commiting an offence when they use it.

Morally tho I'd expect some kind of grief or damage to your car when they can't get on.

PisstNBroke

1,095 posts

253 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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I think your neighbour might be getting confused and is saying its been extended beyond the normal limit?
From my experience my driveway entrance wasn't allowed to be widened as much as I'd like due to it being 4.5m for double and 3m for single.

But I don't see the issue, saves the roads getting chokka and just plain jealousy.
If its anything like my experience it'll be a complaint to the council and 4 years later they'd do exactly the same thing.

Edited by PisstNBroke on Saturday 15th January 22:00

joropug

3,051 posts

218 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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As far as I know it’s irrelevant whether there is a drive there you shouldn’t park in front of a dropped kerb as it is used for access. Whether that be cars or pedestrians/bicycles.

I don’t think you need planning permission in the average road but the person who does the job has to be licensed and surveys it beforehand to make sure it meets a criteria.

Killer2005

20,589 posts

257 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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donkmeister said:
I must applaud the person who has gone to the effort and expense of actually extending their dropped kerb to fit their driveway.
We spent £2,500 (approx) on extending the driveway and dropped kerb but still we get people parking over it.