Ford Fiesta ST seems stolen every day…
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On local Facebook groups it seems that there is a new theft almost every other day within Leeds and surrounding areas.
Usually appear keyless or even without the bouncing signal trick -OBD perhaps. Are these much easier to steal than other fords ?
At a guess I feel like I have read of twenty gone minimum this recent two months.
Usually appear keyless or even without the bouncing signal trick -OBD perhaps. Are these much easier to steal than other fords ?
At a guess I feel like I have read of twenty gone minimum this recent two months.
Zetec-S said:
Because a lot of modern cars are keyless these days. I doubt many people buy a car because it's keyless, rather they decide which car they want and it happens to be keyless.
Personally, my decision about what car I want would take into account whether it had basic security.One of my inlaws has a keyless car, keeps the card in a silly pouch which makes opening the car more faff than a classic without central locking.
How did we get here? Are motoring journo's just too sycophantic to let manufacturers know it's a really silly idea?
OutInTheShed said:
Personally, my decision about what car I want would take into account whether it had basic security.
You miss the point. Most people aren't aware of the issue. Or assume it won't happen to them. And in the grand scheme of things it's not really that big an issue. Yes, certain models and certain parts of the country are more at risk, but does the method the thieves use really make much difference? If they want the car then they'll use other means to get it.OutInTheShed said:
One of my inlaws has a keyless car, keeps the card in a silly pouch which makes opening the car more faff than a classic without central locking.
Sounds like your inlaws are over-complicating it. We keep ours in faraday pouches in the house and just take them out before leaving so no faff.OutInTheShed said:
How did we get here? Are motoring journo's just too sycophantic to let manufacturers know it's a really silly idea?
Zetec-S said:
Yes, possibly. It's solving a problem nobody knew existed. But then I guess a lot of people have got used to the feature and quite like it. For example, Mrs ZS can keep the keys to her MINI in her handbag without ever having to get them out to open the car. You could wave your foot underneath the rear bumper to open the boot of her old Clubman, handy if you had both hands full of shopping.
And when parked in a place where they might feel vulnerable alone, getting into a car quickly would be seen as an advantage. It can probably be coded off but I suspect most people don't bother.
Sticks. said:
And when parked in a place where they might feel vulnerable alone, getting into a car quickly would be seen as an advantage.
It can probably be coded off but I suspect most people don't bother.
When all cars have it Hollywood thrillers are going to have to come up with a new plot device. No longer will the lone female being chased have to fumble in her bag to find her car keys, before dropping them, scrabbling about to pick them up, struggling to get them into the ignition before starting the car and escaping It can probably be coded off but I suspect most people don't bother.
In fact, maybe I could sell this idea, car manufacturers could use this scenario in a TV ad as a way to promote keyless...
Keep the keys in a faraday pouch in your house. To stop the keys being cloned by someone stood outside your house. Which probably is the most common method of car theft.
Then get an immobiliser that’s separate to the keys. So even if they do clone your key or steal the key, there’s no way they can start the engine.
Then get a tracker hidden in the car. So if the car does get moved, it’s can be recovered.
Do I want the car back? I’m more interested in making it as difficult for the criminal scum as possible and ruining their attempt, rather than being a victim.
ScorpionTrack and AutomatricsMTrack do good trackers. The top end ones have a built in immobiliser, can detect if the cars been moved on a low loader and will display a map of the cars route. There’s some entertaining videos by AutomatricsMTrack on YouTube.
Ghost 2 is another good immobiliser that requires you to press the steering wheel controls in a certain combination to unlock.
Then get an immobiliser that’s separate to the keys. So even if they do clone your key or steal the key, there’s no way they can start the engine.
Then get a tracker hidden in the car. So if the car does get moved, it’s can be recovered.
Do I want the car back? I’m more interested in making it as difficult for the criminal scum as possible and ruining their attempt, rather than being a victim.
ScorpionTrack and AutomatricsMTrack do good trackers. The top end ones have a built in immobiliser, can detect if the cars been moved on a low loader and will display a map of the cars route. There’s some entertaining videos by AutomatricsMTrack on YouTube.
Ghost 2 is another good immobiliser that requires you to press the steering wheel controls in a certain combination to unlock.
The problem with Ghost2 and other similar systems is that determined crminals will drag you out of bed at machete point to enter the code. I would much prefer a system that allowed them to get a good safe distance away and then shutdown the engine and deadlock the doors as soon as the vehicle is stationary. It would also contact the Police.
Mr Miata said:
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Then get a tracker hidden in the car. So if the car does get moved, it’s can be recovered.
Ghost 2 is another good immobiliser that requires you to press the steering wheel controls in a certain combination to unlock.
And when these things go wrong and you are trying to work out why the car won't start?Then get a tracker hidden in the car. So if the car does get moved, it’s can be recovered.
Ghost 2 is another good immobiliser that requires you to press the steering wheel controls in a certain combination to unlock.
OutInTheShed said:
Why does anyone buy a keyless car?
Suzuki have done keyless for years but you don’t hear about sport models getting stolen. I think Suzuki run a different system which is harder to defeat.Keyless itself is great when it’s done well. Put the key in a pocket or bag and you don’t have to touch it for anything.
trickywoo said:
OutInTheShed said:
Why does anyone buy a keyless car?
Suzuki have done keyless for years but you don’t hear about sport models getting stolen. I think Suzuki run a different system which is harder to defeat.Keyless itself is great when it’s done well. Put the key in a pocket or bag and you don’t have to touch it for anything.
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