DVLA have added a new keeper!?
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I've had my car for about 2 years, registered in my name. We usually register the cars in my partner's name as she's way more diligent on the paperwork than I am (which starts to explain the rest...). I thought I'd be able to let the DVLA know that I wanted the car in her name and all would be well but it seems this hasn't gone according to plan. I filled out section 3 'change my name and / or address' of the V5C with her name but with our shared address. DVLA sent back a new V5C with her as the new keeper, another 'former owner', new acquired date and a refund for the rounded-down tax remaining. Not what I was expecting.
I phoned the DVLA and politely explained the issue, saying I realise now that the ownership can't be moved within family but I clearly didn't mean for a selling/transferring of the vehicle as I hadn't filled in Section 2 'Selling or transferring my vehicle to a new keeper'. The DVLA rep simply said it didn't matter, we've assumed you wanted that. I explained that I did not want that or I would have filled that in. This line of conversing didn't work and I was told there was nothing I could do now.
So what are my options? The car is a modern classic and having an additional owner won't help eventual resale. I also resent paying for some tax (a couple of weeks, but it's high a VED band...) again.
Can this war be won (by me!)?
TIA
I phoned the DVLA and politely explained the issue, saying I realise now that the ownership can't be moved within family but I clearly didn't mean for a selling/transferring of the vehicle as I hadn't filled in Section 2 'Selling or transferring my vehicle to a new keeper'. The DVLA rep simply said it didn't matter, we've assumed you wanted that. I explained that I did not want that or I would have filled that in. This line of conversing didn't work and I was told there was nothing I could do now.
So what are my options? The car is a modern classic and having an additional owner won't help eventual resale. I also resent paying for some tax (a couple of weeks, but it's high a VED band...) again.
Can this war be won (by me!)?
TIA
CharlesElliott said:
It may not have been what you intended, but unfortunately everything that has happened is correct - you were the keeper, now your wife is the keeper and so the V5 reflects that fact. Sorry!
Yes indeed so! The bit that surprised me was not my misunderstanding of what constitutes a new owner (seems more obvious as the days roll by!) but that I hadn't touched the 'New Keeper' part of the form and DVLA auto-completed for me. Sods law when I do actually sell the car I'll have the form rejected for not filling in the mandatory fields that are more optional than they make out. Might have to chalk this one up on the experience board.CharlesElliott said:
It may not have been what you intended, but unfortunately everything that has happened is correct - you were the keeper, now your wife is the keeper and so the V5 reflects that fact. Sorry!
Yup. Everything has been completed correctly and how it has always been completed.I’m afraid you moved forward on an incorrect assumption and there is no going back.
miketheman2k said:
Yes indeed so! The bit that surprised me was not my misunderstanding of what constitutes a new owner (seems more obvious as the days roll by!) but that I hadn't touched the 'New Keeper' part of the form and DVLA auto-completed for me. Sods law when I do actually sell the car I'll have the form rejected for not filling in the mandatory fields that are more optional than they make out. Might have to chalk this one up on the experience board.
The V5 is *only* about the keeper. Nothing to do with ownership. Anything you change relates only to the keeper.To be fair to the OP people & companies conflate "keeper" with "owner" when talking about how many a vehicle has on record, with an onward effect on residuals. I guess this is because typically a keeper change happens at the same time as an ownership change.
Not sure that's the DVLA's fault though, as they - as rightly pointed out above - just record the number of keepers.
Not sure that's the DVLA's fault though, as they - as rightly pointed out above - just record the number of keepers.
CharlesElliott said:
It may not have been what you intended, but unfortunately everything that has happened is correct - you were the keeper, now your wife is the keeper and so the V5 reflects that fact. Sorry!
Agreed. I have sympathy with the OP, however the keeper has changed and that's what's being recorded.I do agree with the OP. Changing your name is not the same as a new keeper.
Assuming you both have the same surname you could have undergone a sex change and changed your name in the process. Alternative a female getting married and changing her surname. Neither of which justify a new keeper.
Assuming you both have the same surname you could have undergone a sex change and changed your name in the process. Alternative a female getting married and changing her surname. Neither of which justify a new keeper.
123DWA said:
If you still have the old V5 then keep it and stick it in the history file. Any future buyers will be able to see that the last 2 keepers are the same person.
No they won't, they will see that the vehicle has had two keepers in the same household - Not the same person.miketheman2k said:
I've had my car for about 2 years, registered in my name. We usually register the cars in my partner's name as she's way more diligent on the paperwork than I am (which starts to explain the rest...). I thought I'd be able to let the DVLA know that I wanted the car in her name and all would be well but it seems this hasn't gone according to plan. I filled out section 3 'change my name and / or address' of the V5C with her name but with our shared address. DVLA sent back a new V5C with her as the new keeper, another 'former owner', new acquired date and a refund for the rounded-down tax remaining. Not what I was expecting.........
.....TIA
Seems a bit strange wanting to switch registered keepers after @ 2 years, on the basis that the partner's more diligent with paperwork .....TIA
With the exception of when I have bought or sold a car, I can't think of any time during my ownership of a car, where I've ever needed to use the V5C for it, for anything (and with my last three cars, that's ownership periods of 6 years, 8 years and 13 years)
I moved house a few years ago and changed my V5 accordingly. DVLA, in all their wisdom, added me as a new keeper instead of an address change. So, Mx Second Best of 123 Fake St was the previous keeper, and Mx Second Best of 456 New Rd was the next keeper.
I spent a few hours chasing this up with the DVLA. I now have issue 4 of the V5 with the correct address and keepers, but the name being an incorrect spelling of my first and middle name (i.e. Mx Second Best -> Mx Sakent Thrice)
I haven't bothered changing it.
I spent a few hours chasing this up with the DVLA. I now have issue 4 of the V5 with the correct address and keepers, but the name being an incorrect spelling of my first and middle name (i.e. Mx Second Best -> Mx Sakent Thrice)
I haven't bothered changing it.
Torquey said:
I do agree with the OP. Changing your name is not the same as a new keeper.
Assuming you both have the same surname you could have undergone a sex change and changed your name in the process. Alternative a female getting married and changing her surname. Neither of which justify a new keeper.
He hasn't changed his name though. The keeper has changed from him to his partner.Assuming you both have the same surname you could have undergone a sex change and changed your name in the process. Alternative a female getting married and changing her surname. Neither of which justify a new keeper.
Of course you can change you name, but he hasn't.
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