Using false names
Discussion
Suppose Mr and Mrs Smith are on the run and pose as Mr and Mrs Brown with false documents. They have a child and register the birth as John Brown. Is the child's name really Brown since that's how they are registered?
Come to think of it, can you choose whether to give your child the fathers surname or the mothers surname if different? Or can you choose the mother's maiden name?
Come to think of it, can you choose whether to give your child the fathers surname or the mothers surname if different? Or can you choose the mother's maiden name?
Lost ranger said:
Suppose Mr and Mrs Smith are on the run and pose as Mr and Mrs Brown with false documents. They have a child and register the birth as John Brown. Is the child's name really Brown since that's how they are registered?
Come to think of it, can you choose whether to give your child the fathers surname or the mothers surname if different? Or can you choose the mother's maiden name?
A child does not have to have the same surname as either of its parents. In fact, it doesn't need one at all (legally) in the UK. You can register them as simply "Bob" for instance.Come to think of it, can you choose whether to give your child the fathers surname or the mothers surname if different? Or can you choose the mother's maiden name?
So, if the birth is registered as John Brown, that's her name until she gets it changed by deedpoll later in life because that's a stupid name for a girl.
Anyway, one of my nephews has had no fewer than three surnames used in official contexts: firstly, that of a complete tosser (birth certificate), then her maiden name (school registration) and finally, her husband's (when he legally adopted him and everything since).
covboy said:
My (unmarried) cousin;s daughters have their fathers surname
Entirely a matter of choice - if the plan is to get married eventually, then it saves mucking the child about. I went to school with a guy who has a surname that is very similar to a rather unpleasant English word... When he had kids, living in England they took the mother's name, as did he when they got married.
Monkeylegend said:
My partners daughter gave her son her surname on his birth certificate, she wasn't married to the father.
When she got married to a different fella he took her surname so she could keep hers. They have since got divorced.
I think she likes her birth surname.
It's understandable. It's about identity.When she got married to a different fella he took her surname so she could keep hers. They have since got divorced.
I think she likes her birth surname.
The name you are born with is your identity, your link to your siblings and parents etc.
You can, by and large, call yourself what you want. There's nothing stopping you. If you do it to defraud or deceive in a criminal manner, then things often get chargeable. I had a case, full details in a well-reviewed book on Kindle, come through of a Page 3 woman giving her 'stage' name and the address of her agent after a reportable accident. It was quite clear that there was no offence.
Julian Clary had problems when he called himself The Joan Collins Fan Club, but that was a matter of copywrite.
I use the name Harvey Yates for various matters. There's no problem with that. I have a bank account that will accept cheques (I assume; can't remember the last one that came through) made payable to Harvey Yates. I had to explain matters to someone responsible in the bank, but I've had no difficulties.
I have two grandchildren who use a double-barreled portmanteau of both parents' names on a daily basis, but just their mother's surname in specific instances. They have dual nationality and have two passports in two different names. Not illegal in any way.
I've arrested people whose list of AKAs filled the box in the old forms we used to use for documentation. There were offences with some of them as they were probably, but unprovably, used with intent to defraud but there were no charges.
It was common in my parents' time, and locally, to have multiple forenames and to pick one, seemingly at random. This could vary during their lifetime. They could also use one name for family/close friends and another 'officially'. My father's first name was Albert. My mother had a brother called Albert, and an aunt married a bloke called Albert. The only one to use the forename was Albert, that my mother's brother.
Julian Clary had problems when he called himself The Joan Collins Fan Club, but that was a matter of copywrite.
I use the name Harvey Yates for various matters. There's no problem with that. I have a bank account that will accept cheques (I assume; can't remember the last one that came through) made payable to Harvey Yates. I had to explain matters to someone responsible in the bank, but I've had no difficulties.
I have two grandchildren who use a double-barreled portmanteau of both parents' names on a daily basis, but just their mother's surname in specific instances. They have dual nationality and have two passports in two different names. Not illegal in any way.
I've arrested people whose list of AKAs filled the box in the old forms we used to use for documentation. There were offences with some of them as they were probably, but unprovably, used with intent to defraud but there were no charges.
It was common in my parents' time, and locally, to have multiple forenames and to pick one, seemingly at random. This could vary during their lifetime. They could also use one name for family/close friends and another 'officially'. My father's first name was Albert. My mother had a brother called Albert, and an aunt married a bloke called Albert. The only one to use the forename was Albert, that my mother's brother.
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