Speeding fine, hire car, "wrong" numberplate.
Speeding fine, hire car, "wrong" numberplate.
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tommoooo

Original Poster:

8 posts

80 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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The initial message was deleted from this topic on 20 May 2022 at 08:12

covboy

2,593 posts

203 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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If they've passed this onto you they must have some record that you were using the car ?

Chucklehead

2,853 posts

237 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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I’m guessing there’s no reference of the vehicle in your rental agreement because you’re looking at a printed document that was handed to you when you picked up the initial vehicle.

Does the reg match the type and colour of the replacement car you were given? Was the fine issued for a road you’d likely have been on at the time given?

Pretty sure you’re just being facetious, and apologies if you’re not, but the rental company will have very accurate records of who had their car and when. No doubt your receipt would detail the cars you were driving.

The only question then that likely needs answered is: was it you, or the person that came out to swap over the car? (assuming they came to you)

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Despite any cause for arguing, did you do it?

If so take the pain, if not then fight it.

covboy

2,593 posts

203 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Also,with my cynics hat on, perchance the driver of the vehicle at the time of the alleged offence is not who was named on the rental agreement

Bill

58,606 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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They name you to the police. The police send you a S172 form.

You could lie on the form, but then you're potentially on the hook for PCoJ. And they're quite keen on that...

covboy

2,593 posts

203 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Don't understand the "revised" topic heading ?

tommoooo

Original Poster:

8 posts

80 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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covboy said:
Don't understand the "revised" topic heading ?
That wasn’t me

tommoooo

Original Poster:

8 posts

80 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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covboy said:
If they've passed this onto you they must have some record that you were using the car ?
Not that they’ve supplied so far.

Breaking the speed limit doesn’t sound like something I would do, genuinely, only thing I can think is to wait and see if any camera photo shows who was driving.

tommoooo

Original Poster:

8 posts

80 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Chucklehead said:
I’m guessing there’s no reference of the vehicle in your rental agreement because you’re looking at a printed document that was handed to you when you picked up the initial vehicle.

Does the reg match the type and colour of the replacement car you were given? Was the fine issued for a road you’d likely have been on at the time given?

Pretty sure you’re just being facetious, and apologies if you’re not, but the rental company will have very accurate records of who had their car and when. No doubt your receipt would detail the cars you were driving.

The only question then that likely needs answered is: was it you, or the person that came out to swap over the car? (assuming they came to you)
We’ll both. Anything I have (electronically) doesn’t show the vehicle reg in question. Nothing they’ve provided so far does either. Other than “we checked with the branch”

It only states the registration, not the make or colour, so I don’t know if it matches up.

I went to them to swap the car, but did have to wait about 45 minutes. I assume them went out to refuel it or something. The location from the fine is about 75 miles away so unlikely it was them (unless they did drive REALLY fast).

I’m in a position where I’m on the hook for a vehicle I don’t know if I was driving, and that there’s seemingly no documentation or evidence that I was.

InitialDave

15,078 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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If you look the reg number up online, does it match the make/model/colour of any vehicle you have driven recently?

mgtony

4,211 posts

219 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Was the 75 miles away area somewhere you had been in the car?
Did they do a walk around check of the replacement car with you and fill in a condition form?

Bill

58,606 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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mgtony said:
Was the 75 miles away area somewhere you had been in the car?
yes If not fight it, if so then it's a bit of a stretch to try to claim it wasn't you.

spikeyhead

20,372 posts

226 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Bill said:
mgtony said:
Was the 75 miles away area somewhere you had been in the car?
yes If not fight it, if so then it's a bit of a stretch to try to claim it wasn't you.
Indeed, there are times when it makes sense to invoke the "Shaggy" defence, but if you were in the place 75 miles away, then just admit it.

the-norseman

15,731 posts

200 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Op is the speeding fine in a location you visited, if it is then its you. Your not sure if the details match ie the reg? check the car details online.

its not that hard.

GasEngineer

2,335 posts

91 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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tommoooo said:
covboy said:
If they've passed this onto you they must have some record that you were using the car ?
Not that they’ve supplied so far.
They must have some record to give your details to the police when requested for hirer details of the car in question.

InitialDave

15,078 posts

148 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Oh look, another one who deletes their OP and runs away when caught out.

the-norseman

15,731 posts

200 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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InitialDave said:
Oh look, another one who deletes their OP and runs away when caught out.
Knew this would happen. Schools off this week?

rscott

17,465 posts

220 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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the-norseman said:
InitialDave said:
Oh look, another one who deletes their OP and runs away when caught out.
Knew this would happen. Schools off this week?
And changed his username..

donkmeister

12,837 posts

129 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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spikeyhead said:
Bill said:
mgtony said:
Was the 75 miles away area somewhere you had been in the car?
yes If not fight it, if so then it's a bit of a stretch to try to claim it wasn't you.
Indeed, there are times when it makes sense to invoke the "Shaggy" defence, but if you were in the place 75 miles away, then just admit it.
As someone who aspires to have as good a memory as a goldfish, Google maps timeline is a godsend in situations like this. Select the day, look at the blue line showing everywhere I went and it all comes flooding back.