car age and police

[okenemem]

when the police are behind a car doing checks does the age of the car come if the car has a private plate

[Bigends]

okenemem said:

does the age of a car come up when doing checks if the car has a private plate

PNC used to show date of first registration - cant remember if it still does

[chrisch77]

Of course it does, the private registration is attached to a vehicle record (i.e. chassis ID - VIN) in any DVLA linked database so if the plate has been assigned to a vehicle the enquirer will get details of the relevant vehicle, including the first date of registration etc.

Swap (legally!) the number plate and the vehicle record just moves to the new plate ID. Does that answer your question?

[okenemem]

so on the computer in the car , when they type the plate in , details will come up , and those details will include first registration date.

[LosingGrip]

Can't remember if its first registration date, but it does have the year.

In fact I'm sure it does have the date as I've used it to put on a ticket before.

[paintman]

Date of first registration for the vehicle currently displaying the plate - not the date that registration number was first used, which could be decades ago.
Same details as held by DVLA.

Have a play with a few numbers on the gov.uk site & you'll see: https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/?locale=en which will give you month & year

[Tom8]

I think the one in the Blue Brothers did. And it showed parking tickets. Strange how Elwood was so honest in registering his car properly.

[SeekerOfTruthAndPies]

Tom8 said:

I think the one in the Blue Brothers did. And it showed parking tickets. Strange how Elwood was so honest in registering his car properly.

SCMODS.

[PistonTim]

Of course it does.

[carl_w]

Would be interesting to know the background to this request. My guess is the OP has a black and silver plate with an age-appropriate registration mark but attached to a vehicle that is too new to display black and silver plates.

[dibblecorse]

carl_w said:

Would be interesting to know the background to this request. My guess is the OP has a black and silver plate with an age-appropriate registration mark but attached to a vehicle that is too new to display black and silver plates.

Or he just wants to make sure the car he displays his 'private plates' on is the same age as the one they are registered to ;-)

[Gareth79]

carl_w said:

Would be interesting to know the background to this request. My guess is the OP has a black and silver plate with an age-appropriate registration mark but attached to a vehicle that is too new to display black and silver plates.

I can't remember the last time I saw black and silver plates on a car not permitted to use them - I think the police have cleared them all up by now. Unless the car is visibly vintage then it's likely an instant pull.

[Panamax]

It's why there are so many cloned plates around, although they will generally be normal registrations rather than distinctive personal numbers.

Get yourself a nicked Golf and then just stick a pair of plates on it that match an identical car registered to Mr Normal. All the ANPR will ever show up is Mr Normal driving around more than usual. And even if the duplication gets realised Mr Plod still doesn't know which is the genuine car unless and until a physical stop is made and all details cross-checked.

[QBee]

You still see black and silver plates being used by the owners of expensive black sports cars - illegally.

[anonymous-user]

dibblecorse said:

Or he just wants to make sure the car he displays his 'private plates' on is the same age as the one they are registered to ;-)

Yeah OP definitely a cloner hence the question

[Chozza]

Lots of Age related reasons why its needed

Silver Black number plates
Cat/silencers fitted ( easy stop for the wrong age TVR )
Indicators
Seatbelts
Emissions

Probably VIN as the reference field with the plate just being a search field. - but i've not looked since pnn/pnn2

[pits]

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Tom8 said:

I think the one in the Blue Brothers did. And it showed parking tickets. Strange how Elwood was so honest in registering his car properly.

SCMODS.

The State County Municipal Offender Data System

[EK3vtec]

Fix the cigarette lighter

[NFT]

Gareth79 said:

carl_w said:

Would be interesting to know the background to this request. My guess is the OP has a black and silver plate with an age-appropriate registration mark but attached to a vehicle that is too new to display black and silver plates.

I can't remember the last time I saw black and silver plates on a car not permitted to use them - I think the police have cleared them all up by now. Unless the car is visibly vintage then it's likely an instant pull.

Very recently a black 03 BMW changed from his nice looking back & silver illegal reg it wore for four years to a normal one, this was because although police had paid no attention to it what so ever when commonly spinning around the car park, and PCSO occasionally walking past it without so much as a glance, the car near it was recovered by police on false plates having moved before the recovery truck could get there while officer went to give a 165 notice (as it was sorn & not reported stolen) to owner 20 odd miles away having checked the vin as it was out in the open beside a road for numerous days before they looked into it, and on leaving it unattended, wrapped in police tape, someone drove it off and popped it in the car park near the BMW, and the traffic officer that came after a little hunt, suspected perhaps it too was on cloned plates and gave words of advice on finding it was the right car but he liked the black & silver look and defied the DVLA whims/law.

Even I do think it did look better too.

Edited by NFT on Saturday 9th July 17:04

[MikeM6]

NFT said:

Very recently a black 03 BMW changed from his nice looking back & silver illegal reg it wore for four years to a normal one, this was because although police had paid no attention to it what so ever when commonly spinning around the car park, and PCSO occasionally walking past it without so much as a glance, the car near it was recovered by police on false plates having moved before the recovery truck could get there while officer went to give a 165 notice (as it was sorn & not reported stolen) to owner 20 odd miles away having checked the vin as it was out in the open beside a road for numerous days before they looked into it, and on leaving it unattended, wrapped in police tape, someone drove it off and popped it in the car park near the BMW, and the traffic officer that came after a little hunt, suspected perhaps it too was on cloned plates and gave words of advice on finding it was the right car but he liked the black & silver look and defied the DVLA whims/law.

Even I do think it did look better too.

Edited by NFT on Saturday 9th July 17:04

So it was on illegal plates and, whilst initially ignored by police, they had cause to look at this again and suggested to the owner that he might want to put the correct plates one.

Might want to add some spaces and full stops to the above, it would make it easier to follow.