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okenemem

Original Poster:

1,484 posts

223 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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can someone help me understand how the car insurance procedure works when there is an accident

my situation at the moment is, ive had an accident

both me and the third party deny liabilty

so what happens now?

as far as i know there are no witnesses and no cctv

how do they determine the person at fault


NFT

1,324 posts

51 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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okenemem said:
can someone help me understand how the car insurance procedure works when there is an accident

my situation at the moment is, ive had an accident

both me and the third party deny liabilty

so what happens now?

as far as i know there are no witnesses and no cctv

how do they determine the person at fault
Contact damage forensic evidence if goes that way, so don't tell any lies, and demand it if other driver is clearly at fault though even then sometimes it gets foggy.

okenemem

Original Poster:

1,484 posts

223 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Contact damage forensic evidence

can you explain ??

NFT

1,324 posts

51 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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okenemem said:
Contact damage forensic evidence

can you explain ??
Direction of contact/force, paint comes off in a certain way/direction and metal will show signs of how cars came into contact to help determination, if expensive claim and one insurer wants to really avoid paying out believing they shouldn't.

Not strictly applicable in all accidents though, like backing into someone.



Edited by NFT on Friday 15th July 22:31

okenemem

Original Poster:

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223 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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interesting

NFT

1,324 posts

51 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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okenemem said:
interesting
This is normally for high value claims or total demand for it from customer, or where insurer wants to push a dispute and build a strong evidence package, some accidents can't really go that way, like slow speed bumper to pumper, claim of what occurred will be a big factor but other PHs will likely explain normal scenarios or want to hear it to give a more accurate reply.

BertBert

21,235 posts

240 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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okenemem said:
interesting
But not I feel all that reliable as a source

okenemem

Original Poster:

1,484 posts

223 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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my accident is defo not a big claim

so i doubt it will go there

NFT

1,324 posts

51 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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BertBert said:
But not I feel all that reliable as a source
You are correct. A lot of times it won't be too helpful.

More a tool in the bag for certain circumstances, if someone coming towards was over line etc. and took your mirror off and scraped wing, its of little use, some scenarios will use the Contact evidence to discredit a story, but the scenario has to allow it.

Sebring440

3,201 posts

125 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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okenemem said:
interesting
Ignore any post from NFT — it's a bot that uses AI to string together words and phrases that purport to relate to the discussion but just come through as being ridiculous and incomprehensible.

The "I" in the "AI" is not very well developed.


SydneyBridge

11,699 posts

187 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Report to your insurers, write down as much as possible, do drawings of road layout, take photos if that helps.
What did the other driver say straight after the accident? Peoples first reactions are very telling

Smurfsarepeopletoo

1,011 posts

86 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Accident Circumstances, Your VOE, TP VOE, Accident Location, Area of damage, Caselaw, Witnesses, CCTV, thats pretty much it.

What happened, If you give a bit of detail, someone might be able to give you a bit of help with it.

NFT

1,324 posts

51 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Sebring440 said:
Ignore any post from NFT — it's a bot that uses AI to string together words and phrases that purport to relate to the discussion but just come through as being ridiculous and incomprehensible.

The "I" in the "AI" is not very well developed.
interesting..

BertBert

21,235 posts

240 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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NFT said:
Sebring440 said:
Ignore any post from NFT — it's a bot that uses AI to string together words and phrases that purport to relate to the discussion but just come through as being ridiculous and incomprehensible.

The "I" in the "AI" is not very well developed.
interesting..
No it doesn't stand for "interesting"

NFT

1,324 posts

51 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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intersection..

No, I'm only joking,

BertBert said:
No it doesn't stand for "interesting"
rofl

Sebring440

3,201 posts

125 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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NFT said:
Sebring440 said:
Ignore any post from NFT — it's a bot that uses AI to string together words and phrases that purport to relate to the discussion but just come through as being ridiculous and incomprehensible.

The "I" in the "AI" is not very well developed.
interesting..
See what I mean?

They are obviously using PH as a test bed for the AI.

Perhaps it because it represents a cross-section of society in the UK. Presumably the algorithm "learns" from the replys to the bot's responses.

I'm struggling as to why PH allows this sort of thing?


nismo48

6,969 posts

236 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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thumbup very good advice
SydneyBridge said:
Report to your insurers, write down as much as possible, do drawings of road layout, take photos if that helps.
What did the other driver say straight after the accident? Peoples first reactions are very telling

NFT

1,324 posts

51 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Sebring440 said:
See what I mean?

They are obviously using PH as a test bed for the AI.

Perhaps it because it represents a cross-section of society in the UK. Presumably the algorithm "learns" from the replys to the bot's responses.

I'm struggling as to why PH allows this sort of thing?
Congratulations, you just ruined the next Alexa upgrade.

Will have to start this all again, mumsnet turned out to always order nappies and piston heads it turned into an A hole of a powerfully built director, complaining about where people park and trying to order cars, wonderful.

Don't know why your struggling, PornHub loved it, it kept buying subscriptions.

I just hope it doesn't order a truck of lube & Dildo's again.

Good day to you Sir.

okenemem

Original Poster:

1,484 posts

223 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
What happened, If you give a bit of detail, someone might be able to give you a bit of help with it.
so basically , i was on my motorbike heading towards the third party

third party was intending to turn right in to petrol station

so he has stopped and was indicating

there was a car in front of me

i have then overtaken the car in front of me on the right on the white line not on the other side of the road

he has then committed to the turn

as i overtake and return to the center of the lane i hit him

i hit him in the passenger rear quarter on my side of the road.

he claims its my fault, apparently i was going to fast

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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okenemem said:
he claims its my fault...
Sounds like he might well be right.