Touring with a tag

[Davel]

For reasons which I won’t go into, one of our small group of riders has been given a tag by the courts.

He has to stay away from a couple of villages near here for the time being.

My question is that we are due to get the ferry to Spain and back in September.

I believe his solicitor needs to talk to the court about this but can anyone tell me if he may still be allowed to travel with our small group please ?

It’s a domestic issue and he’s not a wrong un !

[E-bmw]

Surely, he will have in depth knowledge of the restrictions he has been put under.

[Davel]

Yes but they didn’t mention going abroad with it.

It was only ordered on Friday and the duty solicitor didn’t know when it was raised after the hearing.

The guys fitting it didn’t know either.

To be honest, he didn’t even think to ask at the hearing.

[martinbiz]

No one on here can possibly answer the question, he needs to ask the court

[Davel]

Pretty sure that’s what he doing through his solicitor.

Just wondered I’d Spain would let him in.

We’re travelling by ferry, four of us on motorcycles.

Would they even know / bother ?

[vaud]

If it is a location tag:

https://www.gov.uk/electronic-tags

Then maybe he needs to talk to the responsible officer.

[Davel]

Have seen that and I guess his solicitor will advise or get advice.


Cheers

[Draxindustries1]

Passport could get flagged up at passport control.
His probation officer is the only one who can answer whether he could travel or not.

[LosingGrip]

If he's banned from an area you'd thinking a holiday abroad would be perfect to make sure he doesn't breech the conditions!

[Jamescrs]

Saying "He's on a Tag" isn't too helpful OP, as people have alluded to above there are different tags and many have different conditions attached such as Geo location tags, curfew tags etc.

It needs to be established what type of tag he has, what the conditions are for which he has been tagged and also is it actually possible to be away from his base unit for an extended period which will be installed at whatever address he is residing.

He needs legal advice from his Solicitor and likely a further application to the courts.

His Solicitor may well just advise him that because of the tag foreign travel won't be possible

[donkmeister]

Has a tag but isn't a wrong 'un

Serious suggestion; check that he can actually get in to Spain too... Like most countries they have restrictions on who can come in, and criminal records are part of that.

[Pica-Pica]

LosingGrip said:

If he's banned from an area you'd thinking a holiday abroad would be perfect to make sure he doesn't breech the conditions!

Used to be called ‘exile’.

[911r]

Sounds like a wrongun to me , plus he can’t research his own tag limitations ?

[tumble dryer]

911r said:

Sounds like a wrongun to me , plus he can’t research his own tag limitations ?

[vaud]

donkmeister said:

Has a tag but isn't a wrong 'un

Serious suggestion; check that he can actually get in to Spain too... Like most countries they have restrictions on who can come in, and criminal records are part of that.

https://www.etiaseu.co.uk/etias-news/etias-crimina...

"The EU doesn’t have a blanket exclusion policy against British visitors with criminal histories. Currently, most travellers with minor records are allowed to enter countries as normal without disclosing their past offences."

ETIAS doesn't come in until 2023, and even then it will only be for serious offences.

[vikingaero]

Most licences have this as one of the main conditions:

v) not to travel outside the United Kingdom (for the purposes of this licence United Kingdom includes the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, unless otherwise directed by your supervising officer (which will be given in exceptional circumstances only).

[NGee]

If he has been given a tag then he has obviously committed a crime (even if he isn't a wrong'un!).

Surely the tag is part of his punishment, why should criminals even be allowed to go away on holiday?

[vikingaero]

I think the OP needs to give more info on whether it is a traditional tag where the tag checks in where a curfew may be in places (say 7pm to 7am), or whether it is a newer GPS tag where the intention is to monitoring his movements and solely to keep him out of nominated areas.

[ED209]

NGee said:

If he has been given a tag then he has obviously committed a crime (even if he isn't a wrong'un!).

Surely the tag is part of his punishment, why should criminals even be allowed to go away on holiday?

A tag can be given on pre trial bail therefore not necessarily guilty of anything

[NGee]

ED209 said:

NGee said:

If he has been given a tag then he has obviously committed a crime (even if he isn't a wrong'un!).

Surely the tag is part of his punishment, why should criminals even be allowed to go away on holiday?

A tag can be given on pre trial bail therefore not necessarily guilty of anything

OK fair enough, I didn't know that.