Use of Hazards
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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Unreal

10,690 posts

54 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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JenAGH67 said:
Quick question for all - What’s the situation regarding using hazards lights as a ‘thank you’ gesture, do many on here do it? I couldn’t believe that it could lead to 9 points being put on your license!

Has anyone ever heard of someone being nabbed for using their hazards as a ‘thank you’ gesture?
Never heard of it.

Cat

3,134 posts

298 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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The only situation where hazard lights can be legally used on a moving vehicle (other than a bus) is on a motorway or dual carriageway to warn other drivers of an obstruction. Whether anyone has ever been prosecuted for improper use I have no idea.

Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 19i89 said:
27. No person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road any vehicle on which any lamp, hazard warning signal device or warning beacon of a type specified in an item in column 2 of the Table below is used in a manner specified in that item in column 3.

Hazard warning signal device

Used other than–

(i)to warn persons using the road of a temporary obstruction when the vehicle is at rest; or

(ii)on a motorway or unrestricted dual-carriageway, to warn following drivers of a need to slow down due to a temporary obstruction ahead; or

(iii)in the case of a bus, to summon assistance for the driver or any person acting as a conductor or inspector on the vehicle.
Cat

bolidemichael

17,964 posts

230 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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I use hazards occasionally to say thanks.

Generally there are a couple of scenarios:

- at night/in the dark, in an urban environment, when a flash of lights would dazzle the recipient -- aimed at the vehicle that has pulled aside to give way allowing me to proceed

- aimed at the vehicle behind me in a queue -- most commonly the one that didn't want me to be there so is partially a mickey-take with the sub-text being 'you can't do anything about it' but by the same token, an acknowledgment of their inconvenience, which tends to pacify their mood, too, going by the commensurate diminishing of gesticulation in the rear view mirror.

Otherwise on a motorbike, I've taken to using the hazards a la Française when filtering in multi-lane traffic.

Edited by bolidemichael on Friday 5th August 06:21

bigandclever

14,346 posts

267 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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What’s this 9 points guff?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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I do it all the time as a 'thank you' when towing my caravan and get 'flashed in' by HGVs etc.

Richard-D

2,229 posts

93 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Hazards should only be used when parking on double yellows.

agtlaw

7,391 posts

235 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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bigandclever said:
What’s this 9 points guff?
Careless driving.

It's a ludicrous clickbait story.


vikingaero

13,222 posts

198 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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I use hazards all the time to say thank you as most cars I drive have tinted rear windows and the person behind wouldn't see it - in some instances saying thank you from the side window doesn't always work.

Don forget yo use your hazards when:
stopping on double yellows or red route to go to the cashpoint
waiting for a mate for 5 mins when parked 1 metre from the kerb, because you thought he would be ready
getting your fags/baccy/vape juice from the newsagents
parked in a taxi/drop off area outside a supermarket - adding your hazards lets people know how exceptionally important you are

Tommo87

5,456 posts

142 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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I use them to say thanks, if I don’t think the driver will see my raised hand, due to the overall lighting or distance between us.


It’s a shame more motorists don’t say thank you (or sorry when they fk up).


Vipers

33,497 posts

257 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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It’s happened a few times, some plank parks and puts the hazards on, usually a car or truck on DYL’s, then a car parks behind them.

On approach I see a vehicle which I think is waiting to pull out as all you can see is the offside indicator, I give them a quick flash (headlights that is…), as you do, and they don’t move.

After a while the penny drops, I try to be courteous but doesn’t always help.

BertBert

21,235 posts

240 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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agtlaw said:
Careless driving.

It's a ludicrous clickbait story.
That's a lot points for careless

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

52 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Many use them in europe on AR's/ AP's / Bahns where traffic comes to a halt especially trucks.
I do the same. Whether its 'legal' or not doesn't matter, its a good indication to traffic behind ..

agtlaw

7,391 posts

235 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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BertBert said:
That's a lot points for careless
The maximum number for that offence.

InitialDave

15,078 posts

148 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Draxindustries1 said:
Many use them in europe on AR's/ AP's / Bahns where traffic comes to a halt especially trucks.
I do the same. Whether its 'legal' or not doesn't matter, its a good indication to traffic behind ..
Well, yes, you're warning of the hazard of stopped traffic.

If you drive in Asian countries, they seem to have a habit of using hazards to signal that they are intending to pull to the side of the road and stop, whereas in the UK we'd normally indicate to the left for that.

oblio

5,602 posts

256 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Tyre Smoke said:
I do it all the time as a 'thank you' when towing my caravan and get 'flashed in' by HGVs etc.
Same here, when in my motorhome.

carl_w

10,734 posts

287 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Cat said:
The only situation where hazard lights can be legally used on a moving vehicle (other than a bus) is on a motorway or dual carriageway to warn other drivers of an obstruction. Whether anyone has ever been prosecuted for improper use I have no idea.
What about cars that flash the hazard lights when the emergency brake assist kicks in?

s55shh

523 posts

241 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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Vipers said:
It’s happened a few times, some plank parks and puts the hazards on, usually a car or truck on DYL’s, then a car parks behind them.

On approach I see a vehicle which I think is waiting to pull out as all you can see is the offside indicator, I give them a quick flash (headlights that is…), as you do, and they don’t move.

After a while the penny drops, I try to be courteous but doesn’t always help.
Exactly what happened to me on my motorbike test. Only when the tester overtook us both did I stand up higher and realise that the truck actually had its hazards on while delivering from his side door. I still passed btw

robemcdonald

9,966 posts

225 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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I used to enjoy watching it of a Saturday evening. I was a massive general lee fan before I realised the unfortunate connotations with the confederate flag.


Oops sorry, I misread the thread title.

jondude

2,441 posts

246 months

Friday 5th August 2022
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I try to do the HGV driver thank you signal, a quick left signal blast followed by the right signal. Looks cool when done properly but sometimes I overdo it and it gets a bit all over the place.

I think most of us did this but with hazard warning switches being easier to access and operate lately, we got lazy.