UNRESTRAINED INJURED CHILD IN CAR
UNRESTRAINED INJURED CHILD IN CAR
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R0G

Original Poster:

5,035 posts

184 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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What is the law on carrying an unrestrained child in the rear of a private car to A+E
An adult is restrained and is holding the child across their lap
The child has a shoulder injury - broken collar bone

I know the safety risk is much higher but what about the law?

Ambulance service states at least a 6 hour wait

myvision

2,121 posts

165 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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I'd just do it.

dundarach

6,211 posts

257 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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HOW OLD IS THE CHILD?

STRAP THEM IN REGARDLESS?

OTHERWISE I'D WAIT I THINK, NOT WORTH BOTHER FOR SIX HOURS IN MY WORLD.

Dave.

7,893 posts

282 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Just put the lapbelt round them?

Put them in the other side so the seatbelt isn't across the injured side?

Bill

58,596 posts

284 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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myvision said:
I'd just do it.
This. I suppose the child if old/big enough could wear a seatbelt over the other shoulder but given the pain, upset etc just go. It might be worth waiting for an ambulance/paramedic for pain relief, but not 6 hours IMO.

You'll be driving Miss Daisy anyway.

16v stretch

990 posts

186 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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In the eyes of the law, if it's a necessary unexpected journey, or in a taxi, or a commercial vehicle, they should wear the adult seatbelt.

If they're big enough, I'd be inclined to just use the lap belt portion or sit them on the side where the belt goes over the good shouder.

Not big enough? Wrap em up and lay em down. Probably comfier and less jarring.

Or borrow a classic with no rear seatbelts, then it's whatever.

vaud

59,334 posts

184 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Just do it, put the belt over with slack or use it as a lap belt. I doubt any police will either notice or be inclined to give a fine in the circumstances.

M.F.D

955 posts

130 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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You have either updated your initial post or I never read it correctly, in any case my comment isn't valid...

Edited by M.F.D on Monday 5th September 11:29

Rivenink

4,292 posts

135 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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First off, I'd say calm down.

I broke my collarbone after coming off my cycle. Needed surgery to fix. I had very little pain from when it happened through to the surgery. I was able to put myself and my bike into a taxi, take my bike home, and then go to hospital.

I'd strap the kid in so that the shoulder strap of th seatbelt is over the uninjured shoulder, then drive as carefully and as smoothly as possible. Don't rush, a few more minutes isn't going to change anything. Make sure the injured arm is well supported.




anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Had to take my 2 year old to A&E with a suspected broken arm, was only me and him in the car so poor little dude got strapped into his seat.

In your circs, adult in the back with them, belt on but sat in the right or left seat to keep the belt off the affected shoulder.

No decent police officer would stick you on even if you were stopped.

I certainly wouldn't.


But drive normally/carefully.

A few minutes won't make a difference and it'll help with pain management etc etc.

megaphone

11,641 posts

280 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Best thing is not to crash.

Wackywoo105

490 posts

119 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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megaphone said:
Best thing is not to crash.
or to drive in such a way as to attract police attention.

Wacky Racer

41,271 posts

276 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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myvision said:
I'd just do it.
This.

valiant

14,140 posts

189 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Seriously? Just get in the car and go!

Your kid is injured and you’re worried about the legalities of getting him to hospital?

When my lad was small he managed to split his knee open after interfacing with some furniture whilst running around. My first thought was to bundle him in the car with my wife and head straight to A&E and not to get my copy of the Highway Code out or check first with pistonheads!


drmike37

619 posts

85 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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You should not be considering wasting an ambulance on a clavicle fracture.
Put a seatbelt on the child and drive to a&e at a convenient time.
If it helps I’ve never operated on a clavicle in a child in 15 years of orthopaedics.

Yellow Lizud

2,923 posts

193 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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drmike37 said:
If it helps I’ve never operated on a clavicle in a child in 15 years
Me neither wink

BertBert

21,235 posts

240 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Yellow Lizud said:
drmike37 said:
If it helps I’ve never operated on a clavicle in a child in 15 years
Me neither wink
Nor me

bongtom

2,018 posts

112 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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Wife: "Let's bloody go!"
Husband: "Hold on, just got to wait for some more replies from PH"
Wife: "WTF!"
Husband: "FFS, I've put it in CAPITALS woman"
Wife: "You are unbelievable"
Husband: "Speed Matters..."

Jasandjules

72,580 posts

258 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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I doubt I would be overly concerned by the legal situation but a touch more concerned about getting my child the medical help needed.

LosingGrip

8,844 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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drmike37 said:
You should not be considering wasting an ambulance on a clavicle fracture.
Put a seatbelt on the child and drive to a&e at a convenient time.
If it helps I’ve never operated on a clavicle in a child in 15 years of orthopaedics.
I’m amazed at how many calls ambo get for non life threatening stuff. Actually I’m not surprised anymore!

Not helped by 111 wanting to send an ambo out for everything.