Changed Reg, now no longer ULEZ compliant
Changed Reg, now no longer ULEZ compliant
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MXRod

Original Poster:

2,853 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Pretty much as title
Changed car to a London ULEZ compliant one , after a month or so having already ventured into the ULEZ zone without penalty , the VRM was changed to a personal plate .
Out of interest I just checked to see if TFL had updated their system to show the correct car against the VRM and to check the ULEZ status , to my irritation the car is now NON compliant , TFL are no help on phone ,to get it corrected I have to set up a TFL charging account , register the car , upload copy of V5 and 4 photos of the car , front , back , side and interior and then wait .
I have a good mind to ignore this and the first time I get a penalty , challenge it telling them their data is incorrect .

Mandat

4,616 posts

267 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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I had the same thing earlier this year, when I changed cars from a non-compliant to a compliant car, with the private reg being moved to the new car as well.

TfL's records had the reg number as being on the new car but it was still categorised as non-complaint.

I had to upload a copy of the new V5, and i got a reply within a few days to say that their records have been updated.

It was a bit of inconvenience, but it was dealt with smoothly by TfL.

I wouldn't recommend going all gung ho, as you'll end up with a whole lot more paperwork and risk of PCN's if you don't sort it out properly in the first place.

MXRod

Original Poster:

2,853 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Did you sent photos as well , or just V5 ? The web page I am looking at requires photos of the car .I would have thought the V5 would be sufficient

Mandat

4,616 posts

267 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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I ignored the photos bit and just sent the V5, which they accepted as it was a brand new car.

If they wrote back asking for photos, I would have sent them, but they didn't ask for them.

I presume that they might require photos for an older car, so that they can verify that it meets the ULEZ standard.

MXRod

Original Poster:

2,853 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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Thanks for that , just V5 it is . The car is 18 reg and compliant before reg change so I see no issues

Boobonman

5,700 posts

221 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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I had this when I put a plate on my e-class, TFL and all the parking apps were convinced it was a late '80's Porsche.

Easily sorted...

MXRod

Original Poster:

2,853 posts

176 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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Received this
All this info is on V5 , where the hell do I get "Vehicle Conformaty Cert "

"Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) - Registration
Thank you for your enquiry, received on 29 September 2022, about the ULEZ.
If you could please provide us with a copy of the full vehicle registration document (V5C all 4 pages) and a copy of the
vehicle's Conformity Certificate together, showing the following information:
Vehicle registration mark (VRM)
l
Vehicle identification number (VIN)
l
Euro standard the vehicle was manufactured to
l
Fuel Type
l
Nitrogen Oxides (NOx) value
l
Particulate matter (PM) value (if diesel)
l
Once received we will be able to confirm the vehicles compliance and update our database accordingly.
If you receive confirmation of compliance from the manufacturer, you can upload your proof through an online enquiry
form at tfl.gov.uk/ulez.
If you have any further questions, please visit our website at tfl.gov.uk/ulez or call us on 0343 222 2222 (textphone
0207 649 9123 if you have impaired hearing).
Yours sincerely
D. Milton
Contracts & Operations Manager
Transport for London"



surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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So you added a vanity plate at your own costs and now surprised you have to pay ULEZ?

Vanity is expense it would seem who knew.

MXRod

Original Poster:

2,853 posts

176 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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surveyor_101 said:
So you added a vanity plate at your own costs and now surprised you have to pay ULEZ?


Vanity is expense it would seem who knew.
Perhaps you woul like to explain how changing a VRM alters the vehicle emmisions .
Or perhaps you are jealous of personal VRMs
Just go and troll some other thread

stinkyspanner

971 posts

106 months

Friday 30th September 2022
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I had the opposite - I put my 'vanity' plate on an old 5 series which was most certainly not ULEZ spec and it always showed as compliant.

MXRod

Original Poster:

2,853 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Spoke to a helpful lady in TFL .ULEZ customer services , she checked the V5c that I had sent and could see no reason why extra information was required as everything was already on the V5 .and the vehicle should have been listed as compliant as a matter of course
She is going to refer the paperwork back to whoever sent the follow up mail and get it sorted out for me ,soon I hope as I need to be able to go into the zone to get to Wikes in Catford . This because what I need will not fit in an MX5 (20 years old and ULEZ compliant)



Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

52 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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I have a car , no cat, no dpf, no egr and on carbs ...ULEZ compliant. ULEZ is a sham...


FilH

1,151 posts

173 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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stinkyspanner said:
I had the opposite - I put my 'vanity' plate on an old 5 series which was most certainly not ULEZ spec and it always showed as compliant.
Was reading the thread and wondered if it worked the other way... Seemed it does.

Was your plate fiited to a complaint car before you put it on your 5 series? How old is the 5 series?

mattyprice4004

1,342 posts

203 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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surveyor_101 said:
So you added a vanity plate at your own costs and now surprised you have to pay ULEZ?

Vanity is expense it would seem who knew.
4PM on a Friday is far too early for that level of ‘beered up’, Shirley!
Or are you actually serious?

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

52 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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mattyprice4004 said:
surveyor_101 said:
So you added a vanity plate at your own costs and now surprised you have to pay ULEZ?

Vanity is expense it would seem who knew.
4PM on a Friday is far too early for that level of ‘beered up’, Shirley!
Or are you actually serious?
Surveyor 101 is a woman?

MXRod

Original Poster:

2,853 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Well , a result , I think , Still getting requests for additional paperwork to confirm car is compliant , in the meantime a check on TFL , now listed as only one charge applies ie CC , so compliant , bizarre .
But I will take that ! job done


Fastdruid

9,364 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Draxindustries1 said:
I have a car , no cat, no dpf, no egr and on carbs ...ULEZ compliant. ULEZ is a sham...
ULEZ is all about NOx, if it has carbs then its almost certainly petrol and not pumping out a whole load of NOx.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Fastdruid said:
ULEZ is all about NOx, if it has carbs then its almost certainly petrol and not pumping out a whole load of NOx.
Not really about NOx seems to be a cash grab to me.

If its NOx ban all non compliant cars eliminating high levels rather than charge, I believe some European countries just ban older vehicles from city centre.


On the other side it seems compliance is very messy and not clear.

stinkyspanner

971 posts

106 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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FilH said:
stinkyspanner said:
I had the opposite - I put my 'vanity' plate on an old 5 series which was most certainly not ULEZ spec and it always showed as compliant.
Was reading the thread and wondered if it worked the other way... Seemed it does.

Was your plate fiited to a complaint car before you put it on your 5 series? How old is the 5 series?
Yes it was on a newish Merc diesel, then it was on retention for about 2 years, then it went on the BMW 530d 2007