Speed limit for pickups
Discussion
As a company we are looking into purchasing 3 Pickups - one for each director.
Now, as they are classed as commercial vehicles am I right in assuming the light commercial speed limits apply to them (i.e 60mph on NSL dual carriageways for example)? This may affect my decision to go ahead as I use a hell of a lot of these type of roads and would rather not be restricted to 60mph!
Now, as they are classed as commercial vehicles am I right in assuming the light commercial speed limits apply to them (i.e 60mph on NSL dual carriageways for example)? This may affect my decision to go ahead as I use a hell of a lot of these type of roads and would rather not be restricted to 60mph!
You would need to check if the vehicles you are looking at meet the definition of a dual purpose vehicle (unladen weight no more 2040kg and either AWD or 2nd row of seats and rear/side windows etc.). If they do they will be subject to car limits if they don't they it will be the lower limits.
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To qualify as a van for company vehicle benefit in kind calculations it has to be capable of carrying over 1 tonne payload.
If under that the benefit in kind would be on the car scales, ie much higher.
To illustrate, if classed as a van the tax payable at 20 or 40% would be based on £3,960 regardless of the cost fo the vehicle.
If it is classed as a car, then using a £30,000 Ford Ranger (171 gm CO2) to illustrate, the tax payable would be based on £11,100. If £40,000 then £14,800 and so on.
If under that the benefit in kind would be on the car scales, ie much higher.
To illustrate, if classed as a van the tax payable at 20 or 40% would be based on £3,960 regardless of the cost fo the vehicle.
If it is classed as a car, then using a £30,000 Ford Ranger (171 gm CO2) to illustrate, the tax payable would be based on £11,100. If £40,000 then £14,800 and so on.
QBee said:
To qualify as a van for company vehicle benefit in kind calculations it has to be capable of carrying over 1 tonne payload.
If under that the benefit in kind would be on the car scales, ie much higher.
To illustrate, if classed as a van the tax payable at 20 or 40% would be based on £3,960 regardless of the cost fo the vehicle.
If it is classed as a car, then using a £30,000 Ford Ranger (171 gm CO2) to illustrate, the tax payable would be based on £11,100. If £40,000 then £14,800 and so on.
Actually for the HMRC it's 1045kg if a canopy is fitted, as they class a canopy as a flat rate of 45kg.If under that the benefit in kind would be on the car scales, ie much higher.
To illustrate, if classed as a van the tax payable at 20 or 40% would be based on £3,960 regardless of the cost fo the vehicle.
If it is classed as a car, then using a £30,000 Ford Ranger (171 gm CO2) to illustrate, the tax payable would be based on £11,100. If £40,000 then £14,800 and so on.
https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/employmen...
littleredrooster said:
I can't give a definitive answer, but - having driven many varieties of the things around the country in the past - can tell you that the legislation around this is an absolute dog's dinner and is in need of urgent reform to simplify it.
But if it can carry 1 tonne of dog's dinner then for benefit in kind purposes it is classed as a van.No idea if the same classification is applied for speed limits.
It's a minefield and seems to change on use.
I have a Transporter T6 T32 kombi which is our family car, carries no weight other than people has 2 rows of normal seats and came from the factory like that (windows ovs) yet because of the weight limits it's restricted to 60mph on certain carriageways
I could have bought a T30 variant loaded it to the rafters with kitchen, pop top etc all the way up to its limit and drive at car speeds.
I believe T32 was the variant companies used for classing as commercial use.
I have a Transporter T6 T32 kombi which is our family car, carries no weight other than people has 2 rows of normal seats and came from the factory like that (windows ovs) yet because of the weight limits it's restricted to 60mph on certain carriageways
I could have bought a T30 variant loaded it to the rafters with kitchen, pop top etc all the way up to its limit and drive at car speeds.
I believe T32 was the variant companies used for classing as commercial use.
jonwm said:
It's a minefield and seems to change on use.
I have a Transporter T6 T32 kombi which is our family car, carries no weight other than people has 2 rows of normal seats and came from the factory like that (windows ovs) yet because of the weight limits it's restricted to 60mph on certain carriageways
I could have bought a T30 variant loaded it to the rafters with kitchen, pop top etc all the way up to its limit and drive at car speeds.
I believe T32 was the variant companies used for classing as commercial use.
Pickups?I have a Transporter T6 T32 kombi which is our family car, carries no weight other than people has 2 rows of normal seats and came from the factory like that (windows ovs) yet because of the weight limits it's restricted to 60mph on certain carriageways
I could have bought a T30 variant loaded it to the rafters with kitchen, pop top etc all the way up to its limit and drive at car speeds.
I believe T32 was the variant companies used for classing as commercial use.
Lefty said:
I’ve had a few pickups and vans and have never been pulled for doing 70-75 on dual carriageways or motorways, including the stupid average speed cameras on the a90.
It's 70mph on motorway anyway . Just 60 on Dual and 50 on single carriageway Mate of mine got done by ANPR mobile camera van 67mph on dual carriage way. So know it can happen.
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