Officers are mates with criminals?
Officers are mates with criminals?
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Pelicula

Original Poster:

430 posts

53 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Recently I've watched too many Youtube body cam type vids showing various scum getting nicked for drug dealing, carrying knives, pointing guns, etc...etc...all part and parcel of living in a large city of course, but....calling these fkers 'mate' ?
Really ?
Whats next ?
Bro ?
Cuz ?
Are we trying to make the arrest process as stress free as possible for these promising scientists ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLwSEaZ2_w&t=...
An established dealer of Class A given the lightest touch...throughout the entire process. I trust someones checking on his welfare...

No such treatment a little further north....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgUE02PjH0
A proper arrest. But...

“A trained support dog died after a thief stole his owner’s car, later crashing it during a 130mph police chase.

Wilson, who has autism and ADHD, had left his beloved Doberman, named Jake, inside his Range Rover when Nicholas Oakland broke in”
Jake suffered spinal injuries during the crash and had to be put down.

The lunatic thief was unfortunately treated less harshly and received only a 19 month sentence.
Perhaps the magistrates considered him a mate too.

Tyrell Corp

258 posts

51 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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It is a tactic to de-escalate the arrest situation and to try to keep the suspect friendly and communicative.

Smashing them up in the back of the van wouldn't really help the evidence gathering part.

Also, it is for the courts to decide guilt, not the police; only 20% of arrests actually result in a conviction.

Greendubber

15,370 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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No, of course they aren't. It's just a simple informal way of addressing someone.

Edited by Greendubber on Wednesday 3rd January 05:49

SIMON67

346 posts

289 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Pelicula said:
Recently I've watched too many Youtube body cam type vids showing various scum getting nicked for drug dealing, carrying knives, pointing guns, etc...etc...all part and parcel of living in a large city of course, but....calling these fkers 'mate' ?
Really ?
Whats next ?
Bro ?
Cuz ?
Absolutely! Glad it's not just us shouting at the TV saying "He's not your mate, he's a s**t" Obviously we realise that it's just how people speak and that it can de-escalate a situation, yet...

Bill

58,885 posts

286 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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What would you prefer?? "Sir"?? Or would you like the cop who pulls you for speeding call you a useless little st?

Dingu

4,893 posts

61 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Too much daily mail and booze for the OP…

Bobupndown

3,008 posts

74 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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You'd get no end of grief if you called them what you really thought of them.

MBVitoria

2,533 posts

254 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Better than "chap"

Tommo87

5,457 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Bill said:
What would you prefer?? "Sir"?? Or would you like the cop who pulls you for speeding call you a useless little st?
Asking for the OP to subsequently offer a solution for any virtue signaling post is against social media norms.

Alex Z

2,097 posts

107 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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An informal term of address like that isn’t going to have any impact on the decision to charge or convict, but could take a bit of an edge off a tense confrontation. I doubt you’ll see it being used towards any serious offenders.

Tigerj

458 posts

127 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Is it not just a de-escalation technique? Changing your style of communication to match the target audience. If a person is used to a more informal style of communicating, calling them “sir” or “mr x” is more likely to put them out of their comfort zone and on edge. So by communicating on their level the officer in the better position to gather the required evidence and build a report that may come in handy later in the arrest or investigation.

Same way a year 1 and a year 11 teacher will use different language to teach their students.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

98 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Never heard of "good cop, bad cop"?

cpszx

166 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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It’s gender neutral, so prevents officers being screeched at and sued for offending the persons right of individuality.
winkbiggrin

119

20,094 posts

67 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Pelicula said:
Recently I've watched too many Youtube body cam type vids showing various scum getting nicked for drug dealing, carrying knives, pointing guns, etc...etc...all part and parcel of living in a large city of course, but....calling these fkers 'mate' ?
Really ?
Whats next ?
Bro ?
Cuz ?
Are we trying to make the arrest process as stress free as possible for these promising scientists ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLwSEaZ2_w&t=...
An established dealer of Class A given the lightest touch...throughout the entire process. I trust someones checking on his welfare...

No such treatment a little further north....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgUE02PjH0
A proper arrest. But...

“A trained support dog died after a thief stole his owner’s car, later crashing it during a 130mph police chase.

Wilson, who has autism and ADHD, had left his beloved Doberman, named Jake, inside his Range Rover when Nicholas Oakland broke in”
Jake suffered spinal injuries during the crash and had to be put down.

The lunatic thief was unfortunately treated less harshly and received only a 19 month sentence.
Perhaps the magistrates considered him a mate too.
They are all on the payroll.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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@mumsnet.

TGTiff

500 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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If an officer referered to me as 'mate' I would politely remind him/her that I am not their 'mate' and should be addressed correctly, just as I would refer to them as officer / constable!

Evanivitch

26,483 posts

153 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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The aneurism you'd have if you heard a traffic officer asking "sir/ma'am" to step out of their vehicle.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

139 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Usually when I start saying mate it’s out of frustration with the situation. Maybe some kind of subconscious effort to build some understanding with the person I’m talking to.

HantsRat

2,410 posts

139 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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TGTiff said:
If an officer referered to me as 'mate' I would politely remind him/her that I am not their 'mate' and should be addressed correctly, just as I would refer to them as officer / constable!
Ok mate.

Roofless Toothless

7,583 posts

163 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2024
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Don’t watch Endeavour, matey.