Unreasonable time to wait for repair

Unreasonable time to wait for repair

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scrw.

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2,862 posts

203 months

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Long story short, Wifes Jeep Renegade engine died 1st week in January (3yo, 50k miles, under Jeep extended warranty, bought from Jeep dealer, on a Jeep PCP deal) It requires a complete new engine, £14k of repairs on a ~£16k car. Warranty company agreed to do the repair after much waiting. We have been given an initial possible date for the engine to turn up at the deal of 3rd week in June, but not guarantee it will arrive (has moved back twice already), so at least 6 months without the car before they can start fixing it.

Have spoken to AA legal advice (through insurance) however they were a bit woolly with their advice (maybe just the person we got on the call), do we have any rights to reject the vehicle or the repair? Current value & PCP repayment cost are pretty much equal so would be happy to walk away from it. My concern in keeping it is looking at the small print, although the repair work is warrantied, it looks like I cannot extend the warranty further after this size of claim. It has been a friday afternoon car with loads of niggles, and there is a fundamental flaw with the 4x4 hybrid in the car which I think contributed to the engine failure (only my opinion and no sway on this issue)

cheers

MustangGT

12,890 posts

293 months

Tuesday
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When did you actually buy the car?

scrw.

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2,862 posts

203 months

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12.5months prior, bought 23/12/23, went bang 06/1/25

BertBert

20,180 posts

224 months

Tuesday
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Would it be possible just to terminate the pcp early?

scrw.

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2,862 posts

203 months

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Jeep themselves seem reluctant to buy it back, so worst case its off to we buy any car to get rid, from a PCP pov, they still want their money (and it is Jeep/Stellantis finance)

vaud

54,257 posts

168 months

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Out of interest is it a Jeep warranty - Flexcare, Mopar or the dealers own?

For a Jeep warranty I thought they would be effectively self insuring rather than go to a warranty company?

skyebear

814 posts

19 months

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Have they provided you with a courtesy car in the interim?

You'd struggle to show it's an unreasonable amount of time to repair given the dealer will state it's a complex issue and they're awaiting a new engine.

Path of least resistance would be to sweet talk Jeep Finance into letting you walk early given the issues you've faced. Plus you can't be far off the 50% point in the finance agreement where you can terminate early regardless.

vaud

54,257 posts

168 months

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Try a CEO email

Eurig Druce / SVP & Group Managing Director Stellantis UK - should be: eurig.druce@stellantis.com

Guide here top CEO emails: https://www.ceoemail.com/hints.php

It may get picked up by his assistants and triaged to someone senior in customer services. Top down sometimes works, I have had success in the past.

scrw.

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203 months

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no courtesy car, dealership it went to is new to Jeep so took ages to get anywhere as all IT systems were new to them. However we raised a case with Jeep customer service straight away, they are just giving us a running commentary on when an engine will be available. Jeep have got really bad in Stellantis ownership. Will look at pestering the CEO, thanks for the link

Master Of Puppets

3,624 posts

75 months

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That's grim.

scrw.

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2,862 posts

203 months

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Am I being unreasonable asking for the refund of the PCP payments since the fault happened and walking from the PCP deal? We are not at the stage we can walk from the PCP deal at the minute contractually (last time we are doing one of these, cash buying an old petrol Wrangler after this)

surveyor

18,320 posts

197 months

Tuesday
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Seems fair to me, or a courtesy car.

In my book if it’s off the road due to warranty delays they should keep you mobile

kestral

1,933 posts

220 months

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Why does it need a completely new engine?

Have you been told what is wrong with the engine?


scrw.

Original Poster:

2,862 posts

203 months

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They are being vague, but either the crank snapped or the cam chain went (most likely) it did a good impression of a machine gun for a few seconds and died. AA chap tried to start it but it spun up very fast with no effort to start at all.

paradigital

1,026 posts

165 months

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BMW had my F33 in for roof electronics for 13 months.

Granted I had a discourtesy car for the duration though.

I think it’s unreasonable for them to not provide you with a vehicle during the wait, but the wait itself is not necessarily unreasonable.