Britains Car Theft Gangs
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Did anyone else watch this on tv channel 4? Worrying.
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/britains-car-t...
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/britains-car-t...
Heaveho said:
Yeah, I watched part of it, but as the victim of a couple of attempts on stuff I own, I tend to get too annoyed to watch programmes like this all the way through.
I have a Ghost immobiliser on my BMW. Not too worried at home as the car’s in a locked & alarmed garage. Maybe I’ll get a steering wheel lock for when I park in London.bad company said:
Heaveho said:
Yeah, I watched part of it, but as the victim of a couple of attempts on stuff I own, I tend to get too annoyed to watch programmes like this all the way through.
I have a Ghost immobiliser on my BMW. Not too worried at home as the car s in a locked & alarmed garage. Maybe I ll get a steering wheel lock for when I park in London.I used to park in cenrtal London of an evening in the 1980s, and had my driver's side window smashed twice and the gramophone stolen.
I had an alarm fitted after the second time, but more importantly, the kit came with warning stickers, alerting the would be thief that the car was alarmed.
I stuck them on the driver's and passenger's window had no more break ins after that.
Yep I watched it.
Short story, car thieves do whatever they like and seem to get in no bother for it. A reasonable amount of the parts get taken abroad and sold from there by unsuspecting scrap yards who didn't realise some of the parts they buy are stolen. They also seem to not have the details/phone number/name of the person who came and sold it to them.
Car tracker activates on a farm, but because it's not a precise location, the police can't get a warrant. Ridiculous and even more crazy that they would even need a warrant to enter a farm where a stolen car is pinging.
Insurance companies don't care as they put premiums up to compensate. I think if I was an insurance company i'd start incentivising the 5-0 to find the cars. Surely a finders fee of a percentage of the cars pre-theft value with an adjuster for condition would work very well for the police and the insurance company? Would fund a better department, more police time, more resources, better motivation and also hopefully lower premiums.
Short story, car thieves do whatever they like and seem to get in no bother for it. A reasonable amount of the parts get taken abroad and sold from there by unsuspecting scrap yards who didn't realise some of the parts they buy are stolen. They also seem to not have the details/phone number/name of the person who came and sold it to them.
Car tracker activates on a farm, but because it's not a precise location, the police can't get a warrant. Ridiculous and even more crazy that they would even need a warrant to enter a farm where a stolen car is pinging.
Insurance companies don't care as they put premiums up to compensate. I think if I was an insurance company i'd start incentivising the 5-0 to find the cars. Surely a finders fee of a percentage of the cars pre-theft value with an adjuster for condition would work very well for the police and the insurance company? Would fund a better department, more police time, more resources, better motivation and also hopefully lower premiums.
zedstar said:
Yep I watched it.
Short story, car thieves do whatever they like and seem to get in no bother for it. A reasonable amount of the parts get taken abroad and sold from there by unsuspecting scrap yards who didn't realise some of the parts they buy are stolen. They also seem to not have the details/phone number/name of the person who came and sold it to them.
Car tracker activates on a farm, but because it's not a precise location, the police can't get a warrant. Ridiculous and even more crazy that they would even need a warrant to enter a farm where a stolen car is pinging.
Insurance companies don't care as they put premiums up to compensate. I think if I was an insurance company i'd start incentivising the 5-0 to find the cars. Surely a finders fee of a percentage of the cars pre-theft value with an adjuster for condition would work very well for the police and the insurance company? Would fund a better department, more police time, more resources, better motivation and also hopefully lower premiums.
Why do we need to pay the Police an incentive? Its their job which I believe they are well paid to doShort story, car thieves do whatever they like and seem to get in no bother for it. A reasonable amount of the parts get taken abroad and sold from there by unsuspecting scrap yards who didn't realise some of the parts they buy are stolen. They also seem to not have the details/phone number/name of the person who came and sold it to them.
Car tracker activates on a farm, but because it's not a precise location, the police can't get a warrant. Ridiculous and even more crazy that they would even need a warrant to enter a farm where a stolen car is pinging.
Insurance companies don't care as they put premiums up to compensate. I think if I was an insurance company i'd start incentivising the 5-0 to find the cars. Surely a finders fee of a percentage of the cars pre-theft value with an adjuster for condition would work very well for the police and the insurance company? Would fund a better department, more police time, more resources, better motivation and also hopefully lower premiums.
Art Keller said:
zedstar said:
Yep I watched it.
Short story, car thieves do whatever they like and seem to get in no bother for it. A reasonable amount of the parts get taken abroad and sold from there by unsuspecting scrap yards who didn't realise some of the parts they buy are stolen. They also seem to not have the details/phone number/name of the person who came and sold it to them.
Car tracker activates on a farm, but because it's not a precise location, the police can't get a warrant. Ridiculous and even more crazy that they would even need a warrant to enter a farm where a stolen car is pinging.
Insurance companies don't care as they put premiums up to compensate. I think if I was an insurance company i'd start incentivising the 5-0 to find the cars. Surely a finders fee of a percentage of the cars pre-theft value with an adjuster for condition would work very well for the police and the insurance company? Would fund a better department, more police time, more resources, better motivation and also hopefully lower premiums.
Why do we need to pay the Police an incentive? Its their job which I believe they are well paid to doShort story, car thieves do whatever they like and seem to get in no bother for it. A reasonable amount of the parts get taken abroad and sold from there by unsuspecting scrap yards who didn't realise some of the parts they buy are stolen. They also seem to not have the details/phone number/name of the person who came and sold it to them.
Car tracker activates on a farm, but because it's not a precise location, the police can't get a warrant. Ridiculous and even more crazy that they would even need a warrant to enter a farm where a stolen car is pinging.
Insurance companies don't care as they put premiums up to compensate. I think if I was an insurance company i'd start incentivising the 5-0 to find the cars. Surely a finders fee of a percentage of the cars pre-theft value with an adjuster for condition would work very well for the police and the insurance company? Would fund a better department, more police time, more resources, better motivation and also hopefully lower premiums.
Because it incentivises them to work harder.
Art Keller said:
Why do we need to pay the Police an incentive? Its their job which I believe they are well paid to do
It's a bit more complicated than that.A police officer may or may not be well paid, but if you don't fund the police service properly - which several home office ministers haven't - then you don't have enough of them.
bad company said:
Heaveho said:
Yeah, I watched part of it, but as the victim of a couple of attempts on stuff I own, I tend to get too annoyed to watch programmes like this all the way through.
I have a Ghost immobiliser on my BMW. Not too worried at home as the car s in a locked & alarmed garage. Maybe I ll get a steering wheel lock for when I park in London.davek_964 said:
Art Keller said:
Why do we need to pay the Police an incentive? Its their job which I believe they are well paid to do
It's a bit more complicated than that.A police officer may or may not be well paid, but if you don't fund the police service properly - which several home office ministers haven't - then you don't have enough of them.
Like a policemen friend of mine said to me recently, after I got burgled for car keys and car, about the thieves...
'By the time you got up in the morning they would made more money each then most make in a week. They eat well, they buy nice clothes, enjoy their money and live a good life. Until it's harder for them to do it, they won't change'.
It s scandalous that only 3.4% of car thefts lead to a charge or a summons.
I’m even more surprised they didn’t think a badly beaten up dead body found in a cement mixer wasn’t suspicious.
The insurance industry must be haemorrhaging money. I m surprised that the insurance industry doesn t lobby politicians to take more action. I disagree with insurance companies will just put their price up, because people simply wouldn t buy it when it gets too expensive.
I’m even more surprised they didn’t think a badly beaten up dead body found in a cement mixer wasn’t suspicious.
The insurance industry must be haemorrhaging money. I m surprised that the insurance industry doesn t lobby politicians to take more action. I disagree with insurance companies will just put their price up, because people simply wouldn t buy it when it gets too expensive.
Edited by Mr Miata on Friday 20th June 13:12
davek_964 said:
It's a bit more complicated than that.
A police officer may or may not be well paid, but if you don't fund the police service properly - which several home office ministers haven't - then you don't have enough of them.
I suspect if the Police were to get extra funding it would just get swallows up in.........now let me think..........diversity managers etcA police officer may or may not be well paid, but if you don't fund the police service properly - which several home office ministers haven't - then you don't have enough of them.
Kevin-2g5x2 said:
The two balaclaved low lifes interviewed who stated "Boo hoo you've had your Range rover stolen, well just get another" showed what's wrong, a complete lack of deterrent and punishment, they want their thieving little fingers chopping off.
This is the problem, even if they do get caught, they know it will be a slap on the wrist, no real deterrent.We need proper sentencing for crime like this, see the shop lifting thread, petty crime leads to other things.
Kevin-2g5x2 said:
The two balaclaved low lifes interviewed who stated "Boo hoo you've had your Range rover stolen, well just get another" showed what's wrong, a complete lack of deterrent and punishment, they want their thieving little fingers chopping off.
If I watch it that will be the point where a brick gets thrown through the TV screen, so probably best I don't. Thanks for the warning.How have we got to the point that we can film these scumbags but can't lock them up (or better still shoot the disgusting lowlife)?
Heaveho said:
bad company said:
Heaveho said:
Yeah, I watched part of it, but as the victim of a couple of attempts on stuff I own, I tend to get too annoyed to watch programmes like this all the way through.
I have a Ghost immobiliser on my BMW. Not too worried at home as the car s in a locked & alarmed garage. Maybe I ll get a steering wheel lock for when I park in London.I watched it. I had a motorcycle stolen years ago that I was holding onto for the owners family as he had recently died. In my case and so many others the police just arn’t interested.
How it can be resolved is anyones guess. The police don’t want to attend any reported in progress crimes where they can just pass the buck to an insurance company.
I attempted to get police to attend an incident involving vandalism and attempted arson to a parked/abandoned /stolen Car a couple of months ago. Couldnt get to speak to anyone it all had to be done via an annoying text service. After about 40 minutes of texting back and forth I eventually got a message saying they didn’t feel it was worth sending an officer to do a drive by to see if a crime was being committed.
Utterly useless.
Still I guess insurance companies also don’t care as they just bump premiums up.
How it can be resolved is anyones guess. The police don’t want to attend any reported in progress crimes where they can just pass the buck to an insurance company.
I attempted to get police to attend an incident involving vandalism and attempted arson to a parked/abandoned /stolen Car a couple of months ago. Couldnt get to speak to anyone it all had to be done via an annoying text service. After about 40 minutes of texting back and forth I eventually got a message saying they didn’t feel it was worth sending an officer to do a drive by to see if a crime was being committed.
Utterly useless.
Still I guess insurance companies also don’t care as they just bump premiums up.
bad company said:
Heaveho said:
bad company said:
Heaveho said:
Yeah, I watched part of it, but as the victim of a couple of attempts on stuff I own, I tend to get too annoyed to watch programmes like this all the way through.
I have a Ghost immobiliser on my BMW. Not too worried at home as the car s in a locked & alarmed garage. Maybe I ll get a steering wheel lock for when I park in London.
king stupid country.Edited by Heaveho on Friday 20th June 19:51
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