My Ugandan friend was driving
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Or insert your country of choice with no reliable mail service here.
Purely out of curiosity. Whilst I absolutely would not condone such action and an attempt to pervert the course of justice, why don’t more people do this upon receipt of speeding fines which don’t identify the driver? “They showed me their license when they were here, they showed me their proof of insurance and they’ve now gone back to 38 Kampala Road”
British sense of fair play, people’s fear of getting in over their heads? Or are the sorts of people who might consider it just not registering vehicles properly in the first place and therefore completely circumnavigating the issue anyway?
Purely out of curiosity. Whilst I absolutely would not condone such action and an attempt to pervert the course of justice, why don’t more people do this upon receipt of speeding fines which don’t identify the driver? “They showed me their license when they were here, they showed me their proof of insurance and they’ve now gone back to 38 Kampala Road”
British sense of fair play, people’s fear of getting in over their heads? Or are the sorts of people who might consider it just not registering vehicles properly in the first place and therefore completely circumnavigating the issue anyway?
Or insert your country of choice with no reliable mail service here.
Purely out of curiosity. Whilst I absolutely would not condone such action and an attempt to pervert the course of justice, why don’t more people do this upon receipt of speeding fines which don’t identify the driver? “They showed me their license when they were here, they showed me their proof of insurance and they’ve now gone back to 38 Kampala Road”
British sense of fair play, people’s fear of getting in over their heads? Or are the sorts of people who might consider it just not registering vehicles properly in the first place and therefore completely circumnavigating the issue anyway?
Purely out of curiosity. Whilst I absolutely would not condone such action and an attempt to pervert the course of justice, why don’t more people do this upon receipt of speeding fines which don’t identify the driver? “They showed me their license when they were here, they showed me their proof of insurance and they’ve now gone back to 38 Kampala Road”
British sense of fair play, people’s fear of getting in over their heads? Or are the sorts of people who might consider it just not registering vehicles properly in the first place and therefore completely circumnavigating the issue anyway?
trickywoo said:
The judiciary in the UK loves nothing more than a PCoJ conviction.
Don t underestimate their determination to get one.
I guess that’s it isn’t it, the risk / reward just isn’t seen as being worth it. I know full well I wouldn’t bother but we were sat around discussing it in a neighbours garden last night and were surprised it was something you never hear of.Don t underestimate their determination to get one.
popegregory said:
trickywoo said:
The judiciary in the UK loves nothing more than a PCoJ conviction.
Don t underestimate their determination to get one.
I guess that s it isn t it, the risk / reward just isn t seen as being worth it. I know full well I wouldn t bother but we were sat around discussing it in a neighbours garden last night and were surprised it was something you never hear of.Don t underestimate their determination to get one.
There were rumours if people did this the police tried to go for allowing the car to be driven without insurance, but again, if you say the driver showed you a policy and you had every right to presume he was insured, I'm not sure how far the police can go on this.
I would imagine it can still be done but yes, it will need nerves of steel and ability to deal with stress over quite a long time, hence why most people pay up.
I expect on some of this you also rapidly run into the issue of digital records.
You proclaim your ugandan friend was driving.
Police ask border control about your Ugandan friend and are promptly told said friend wasn't in the country on the date in question (or at all...)
Oh...
Blaiming someone who wasn't in the UK at the time, or any time in 6 months before or since is a pretty easy PCOJ conviction given the driver you named can't possibly have been driving. And checking this is probably worth it just to avoid people thinking this is a valid way of getting away with it...
You proclaim your ugandan friend was driving.
Police ask border control about your Ugandan friend and are promptly told said friend wasn't in the country on the date in question (or at all...)
Oh...
Blaiming someone who wasn't in the UK at the time, or any time in 6 months before or since is a pretty easy PCOJ conviction given the driver you named can't possibly have been driving. And checking this is probably worth it just to avoid people thinking this is a valid way of getting away with it...
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