Mail being fwd for someone who doesn't live here - bailiffs
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Why would anyone chose to forward mail for a Daniel Barrie Dunn to our address? All handwritten on the front of parking charges letters 'does not recide (sic) at this address' and writes ours down! We've been here over 20 years and don't know Dan!
Had about 3 now - really don't want to get involved and literally give any parking tw@tz firm our address if i send it them back to them etc.
Any ideas? Guy doesn't come up on Google...
Had about 3 now - really don't want to get involved and literally give any parking tw@tz firm our address if i send it them back to them etc.
Any ideas? Guy doesn't come up on Google...
Someone probably the aforementioned character is trying to lose the tickets and has simply put your address on the envelope hoping he can give the Parking Company the runaround . Ultimately he hopes they will tire of looking for him and then its mission accomplished .
If I were you I would simply notify them this Dan doesn't live at your address otherwise they may come calling which is always a pain .
If I were you I would simply notify them this Dan doesn't live at your address otherwise they may come calling which is always a pain .
We had baillfs at our door late 1989 looking for "xxxxx", and armed with a warrant. They didn't ask my name but simply said "we have a warrant to repossess your vehicles, etc etc". I simply said "help yourself - I'll enjoy my day I court suing you". With a quizzacle look they asked why. I replied " because I'm not him - he moved from here over 3 years ago". They then asked if I knew where he was. "Yes, I do. He's in the middle of the North Sea". "What do you mean", they asked. "He got blown up in the Piper Alpha disaster and his body was never recovered." The left! I didn't have the heart to say I knew where his widow lived. She'd suffered enough without those toerags.
If you’ve had 3 from Dan then just sending them back probably won’t achieve much.
Whilst “illegal “ to open someone else’s post I think , given the circumstances I think I would and as Red says contact them and tell them you aren’t Dan and he doesn’t live there.
Whilst it’s maybe unlikely you don’t want the bailiffs turning up unannounced.
Whilst “illegal “ to open someone else’s post I think , given the circumstances I think I would and as Red says contact them and tell them you aren’t Dan and he doesn’t live there.
Whilst it’s maybe unlikely you don’t want the bailiffs turning up unannounced.
Perhaps a Noob question but how has the forwarding happened?
Has the original recipient stuck it in a letter box with the new address handwritten on it and Royal Mail have redelivered it? If so the Company chasing him won't know anything about the attempted redirection and will continue chasing him at whatever address they have on file.
Or has the original recipient returned it to the Debt recovery and they have resent it to you? If that's the case I'm not sure why they would hand-write your address on the envelope. Surely they'd send it out in a new letter addressed to Daniel but sent to your address?
Has the original recipient stuck it in a letter box with the new address handwritten on it and Royal Mail have redelivered it? If so the Company chasing him won't know anything about the attempted redirection and will continue chasing him at whatever address they have on file.
Or has the original recipient returned it to the Debt recovery and they have resent it to you? If that's the case I'm not sure why they would hand-write your address on the envelope. Surely they'd send it out in a new letter addressed to Daniel but sent to your address?
We had bailiffs at our door , twice in fact , both times for previous owners .
It was not in any way intimidating , I just explained I was not Bill Snorker and showed by driving licence . Neither time did they ask me where Bill was , and they accepted my explanation with good grace and apologies .
Maybe I have been lucky.
It was not in any way intimidating , I just explained I was not Bill Snorker and showed by driving licence . Neither time did they ask me where Bill was , and they accepted my explanation with good grace and apologies .
Maybe I have been lucky.
Our neighbour had a spate of using our address for her bad debts. It was a "mistake" apparently when using drop down menus for her address. To start with, we dropped the letters through her letterbox, but we were still getting them, so started opening them and calling the companies to let them know what was happening.
We thought it was over, as this was a couple of years ago, but we had a balliff knocking on our door recently looking for her. I assume it will be another "mistake" by her
We thought it was over, as this was a couple of years ago, but we had a balliff knocking on our door recently looking for her. I assume it will be another "mistake" by her
cliffords said:
We had bailiffs at our door , twice in fact , both times for previous owners .
It was not in any way intimidating , I just explained I was not Bill Snorker and showed by driving licence . Neither time did they ask me where Bill was , and they accepted my explanation with good grace and apologies .
Maybe I have been lucky.
Only once for me - house we bought back in the early 90's was sold to us by the Building Society - previous owners had basically walked turned out that paying their mortgage wasn't their only credit related issue - we were in rented accommodation while we got the place back to liveable. Bailiffs turned up to seize goods to the value of the debt - I said they were welcome to all the paint and filler as I'd got to the point where I was sick of decorating - they declined my offer and I couldn't give them a forwarding address because I didn't have a clue where they had gone.It was not in any way intimidating , I just explained I was not Bill Snorker and showed by driving licence . Neither time did they ask me where Bill was , and they accepted my explanation with good grace and apologies .
Maybe I have been lucky.
This is not Royal Mail forwarding. What is almost certainly happening is that Daniel Barrie Dunn (or someone acting for him) is receiving parking charge / debt letters at his real address, and hand-writing your address on the envelope, then putting it back into the post system.
That means the parking company does not know your address. Royal Mail is simply re-delivering mail based on the handwritten address.
This is a common tactic used to muddy the trail and delay enforcement.
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: “NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS – RETURN TO SENDER”. Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated “Not known at this address” returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor’s ability to claim “reasonable belief”. It reduces the chance of doorstep enforcement. Finally, parking firms are regulated by the DVLA data-sharing rules and must keep addresses accurate.
That means the parking company does not know your address. Royal Mail is simply re-delivering mail based on the handwritten address.
This is a common tactic used to muddy the trail and delay enforcement.
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: “NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS – RETURN TO SENDER”. Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated “Not known at this address” returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor’s ability to claim “reasonable belief”. It reduces the chance of doorstep enforcement. Finally, parking firms are regulated by the DVLA data-sharing rules and must keep addresses accurate.
paddy1970 said:
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER . Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief.
But if it was that easy no-one would pay any bills, they'd just write 'NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS - RETURN TO SENDER' on them and live happily ever after.Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief.
Simpo Two said:
paddy1970 said:
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER . Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief.
But if it was that easy no-one would pay any bills, they'd just write 'NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS - RETURN TO SENDER' on them and live happily ever after.Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief.
For your own bill:
Name ✔
Address ✔
Credit file ✔
Legal linkage ✔
Returned post is irrelevant.
For someone else’s bill:
Name ✖
Address unverified ✖
No legal linkage ✖
Returned post breaks the assumption.
Simpo Two said:
paddy1970 said:
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER . Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief.
But if it was that easy no-one would pay any bills, they'd just write 'NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS - RETURN TO SENDER' on them and live happily ever after.Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief.
Eventually what was obviously a bank card, so I called the bank, to be told they couldn't do anything about it and only the account holder could change the address. Sure enough, the next day the PIN arrived in a letter, then a statement showing funds available. Again no help from the bank.
We had similar with Air BnB. Neighbour using our address by "mistake". We sent anyone next door, as it wasn't their fault. She said she would correct the error, but didn't. I called Air BnB, to be told only the account holder could change the address !
paddy1970 said:
This is not Royal Mail forwarding. What is almost certainly happening is that Daniel Barrie Dunn (or someone acting for him) is receiving parking charge / debt letters at his real address, and hand-writing your address on the envelope, then putting it back into the post system.
That means the parking company does not know your address. Royal Mail is simply re-delivering mail based on the handwritten address.
This is a common tactic used to muddy the trail and delay enforcement.
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER . Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief . It reduces the chance of doorstep enforcement. Finally, parking firms are regulated by the DVLA data-sharing rules and must keep addresses accurate.
Not sure about that, have just started binning mail for my Ex, nearly 6yrs after starting what you have suggested …That means the parking company does not know your address. Royal Mail is simply re-delivering mail based on the handwritten address.
This is a common tactic used to muddy the trail and delay enforcement.
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER . Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief . It reduces the chance of doorstep enforcement. Finally, parking firms are regulated by the DVLA data-sharing rules and must keep addresses accurate.
paddy1970 said:
This is not Royal Mail forwarding. What is almost certainly happening is that Daniel Barrie Dunn (or someone acting for him) is receiving parking charge / debt letters at his real address, and hand-writing your address on the envelope, then putting it back into the post system.
That means the parking company does not know your address. Royal Mail is simply re-delivering mail based on the handwritten address.
This is a common tactic used to muddy the trail and delay enforcement.
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER . Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief . It reduces the chance of doorstep enforcement. Finally, parking firms are regulated by the DVLA data-sharing rules and must keep addresses accurate.
Thanks for your AI-generated response. That means the parking company does not know your address. Royal Mail is simply re-delivering mail based on the handwritten address.
This is a common tactic used to muddy the trail and delay enforcement.
On the front of the envelope, write clearly: NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER . Then put it in a post box operated by Royal Mail. Do this every time.
Repeated Not known at this address returns eventually trigger a data correction under UK GDPR. It undermines the creditor s ability to claim reasonable belief . It reduces the chance of doorstep enforcement. Finally, parking firms are regulated by the DVLA data-sharing rules and must keep addresses accurate.
Countdown said:
Has the original recipient stuck it in a letter box with the new address handwritten on it and Royal Mail have redelivered it? If so the Company chasing him won't know anything about the attempted redirection and will continue chasing him at whatever address they have on file.
Yes someone has hand written 'does not recide at this address (sic)' and put our address down.I think I'll post them back to the parking company and log it with a pic. I think its a cock up more than a runaround as general junk mail stuff has started appearing now too - manually forwarded in same way.
Cheers
Ken Figenus said:
Yes someone has hand written 'does not recide at this address (sic)' and put our address down.
I think I'll post them back to the parking company and log it with a pic. I think its a cock up more than a runaround as general junk mail stuff has started appearing now too - manually forwarded in same way.
Cheers
Perhaps Dan is a near neighbour then ?!I think I'll post them back to the parking company and log it with a pic. I think its a cock up more than a runaround as general junk mail stuff has started appearing now too - manually forwarded in same way.
Cheers
Ken Figenus said:
Countdown said:
Has the original recipient stuck it in a letter box with the new address handwritten on it and Royal Mail have redelivered it? If so the Company chasing him won't know anything about the attempted redirection and will continue chasing him at whatever address they have on file.
Yes someone has hand written 'does not recide at this address (sic)' and put our address down.I think I'll post them back to the parking company and log it with a pic. I think its a cock up more than a runaround as general junk mail stuff has started appearing now too - manually forwarded in same way.
Cheers
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