Car insurance NCB - how many years?
Car insurance NCB - how many years?
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Nemophilist

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3,185 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th March
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i am taking out a new car insurance policy and for NCB i have put that I have 15+ years.
The new insurer says that they may ask for proof but may not. So I have gone to my current insurer (who won't insure me on my replacement car so I can't continue with them) and their policies go up to a maximum of 9+ years NCB and thats what the proof of NCB will be issued with.
I contacted the new insurer to ask what to do and they have said they they can't advise on this and that NCB proof may or may not be requested once the new policy is taken out.
The cost difference on the new policy using 9 years vs 15 years is around £80 for the year...

Do I just put 9 years from now on?

Hammy98

912 posts

116 months

Thursday 19th March
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Have you got access to your previous policy documents? I submitted one that wasn't my 'current' policy when I was switching company for this exact reason. They accepted it and said nothing despite being from 2 years before.

Spurry

202 posts

114 months

Thursday 19th March
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Nemophilist said:
i am taking out a new car insurance policy and for NCB i have put that I have 15+ years.
The new insurer says that they may ask for proof but may not. So I have gone to my current insurer (who won't insure me on my replacement car so I can't continue with them) and their policies go up to a maximum of 9+ years NCB and thats what the proof of NCB will be issued with.
I contacted the new insurer to ask what to do and they have said they they can't advise on this and that NCB proof may or may not be requested once the new policy is taken out.
The cost difference on the new policy using 9 years vs 15 years is around £80 for the year...

Do I just put 9 years from now on?
That's interesting. Having had insurances with many companies over the last 60+yrs,
I do not recall any company giving more than 9 yrs worth of NCB, however many years are actually held.
Wondering what others experiences have been.

mmm-five

12,131 posts

308 months

Thursday 19th March
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What I had to do was ask my insurer to provide a letter saying you came to them with x years NCB, have been with them for x years without a claim.

So whilst their 'count' stops at 9+, simple sums would show the actual number of years.

E-bmw

12,404 posts

176 months

Thursday 19th March
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IME I have come across that many that only go to 9 & some that go to 15.

I always state what I have actually accrued & I keep each insurance certificate & renewal letter each year for proof.

It sounds ridiculous but in reality is only about 30 sheets of paper.

One of the many cases where I follow the theory "rather be looking at it than for it".

Rick101

7,148 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th March
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The whole NCB thing is a bit of a sham or scam depending which way you look at it.

I'm with a decent broker so just tell them what I want and they sort it.

If I insure a car elsewhere I keep a log of who I've been insured with and electronic copies of the end of year NCB for each policy. It works great until you get one company that can't reflect a simple number so you end up with Insurance company X giving +1 year, shows 9 but totals 12.

Mr Tidy

29,730 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th March
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I've never had a renewal notice/NCD proof showing more than 9 years. Didn't know some insurers gave up to 15!

I have more than that on both my cars but couldn't prove it as I seem to end up changing insurer most years because they all seem to be unable to be competitive for more than one year. banghead

Durzel

12,969 posts

192 months

Thursday 19th March
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I’ve had more than one insurer tell me that it only “counts” for up to 9. I’ve asked them to record how much I actually have, though, on the basis that other insurers I might use in the future might record the full amount.

I’d put down whatever you can prove. +1 year if it’s from your last renewal and you haven’t made a claim.

Jeremy-75qq8

1,654 posts

116 months

Thursday 19th March
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Try quoting with Nil ncb. I had to as I bought a second car. The ncd made zero difference to the price.

Your claim history is relevant. As you age from what I can see you declared ncd makes no difference at all.

For younger drivers it make make a difference.

I am 60. Turbo s with no ncd £1000. Cayenne base with full ncd £1200. Turbo s is newer and three times the value. Go figure because I can't !

sixor8

7,997 posts

292 months

Thursday 19th March
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I can't understand that. I'm over 60 and ever since there's been online quoting (20 yrs plus ?), it has always made a difference for me.

The only time it doesn't if when you access the quote, it's a classic or specialist policy that doesn't use or provide NCD. Was it one of those? My 42 year old motorcycle for example makes no difference but its double on a 3 year-old one without 9 yrs NCD. You're not getting a quote on the same vehicle with or without it.

Similarly on cars, it is ALWAYS cheaper NCD, whatmt would be the point of ir otherwise? There are many other factors but if everything else is the same, NCD does make a difference for me.

johnpsanderson

735 posts

224 months

Friday 20th March
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Jeremy-75qq8 said:
Try quoting with Nil ncb. I had to as I bought a second car. The ncd made zero difference to the price.

Your claim history is relevant. As you age from what I can see you declared ncd makes no difference at all.

For younger drivers it make make a difference.

I am 60. Turbo s with no ncd £1000. Cayenne base with full ncd £1200. Turbo s is newer and three times the value. Go figure because I can't !
I ve not had my own policy for years, my wife is main driver of our family car so I’m just named driver. When I bought my own car last year I was expecting to be hit, but the premiums are all perfectly reasonable as far as I m concerned, even though I ve said I have no history of NCB.


Opapayer

1,288 posts

9 months

Friday 20th March
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Jeremy-75qq8 said:
Try quoting with Nil ncb. I had to as I bought a second car. The ncd made zero difference to the price.

Your claim history is relevant. As you age from what I can see you declared ncd makes no difference at all.

For younger drivers it make make a difference.

I am 60. Turbo s with no ncd £1000. Cayenne base with full ncd £1200. Turbo s is newer and three times the value. Go figure because I can't !
Not difficult to figure out. Insurance company has had more claims for Cayennes than Turbos S’s.

You’re right about NCD not making much difference as you get older though. It stops being a discount anyway around 5 years and just becomes another year without a claim though. Unless people do maths like Donald Trump and expect a 200 or 300% discount smile

Sargeant Orange

3,113 posts

171 months

Friday 20th March
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NCD has made an insignificant difference to the cost of my last 6 or so policies. Only really found out when taking brand new cover on a stop gap car. It makes the whole "protecting NCD" pointless.

mmm-five

12,131 posts

308 months

Friday 20th March
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Sargeant Orange said:
NCD has made an insignificant difference to the cost of my last 6 or so policies. Only really found out when taking brand new cover on a stop gap car. It makes the whole "protecting NCD" pointless.
Mine was asking for £1100 without any NCD, or £400 if I transferred my NCD from a car that I might be able to switch to a classic policy.

The other car was £600 without, or £240 with.

Opapayer

1,288 posts

9 months

Friday 20th March
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mmm-five said:
Mine was asking for £1100 without any NCD, or £400 if I transferred my NCD from a car that I might be able to switch to a classic policy.

The other car was £600 without, or £240 with.
Risky job, car, postcode or lots of points?

I’m like others and nearing 60, NCD does very little to my quotes for a sensible car.

mmm-five

12,131 posts

308 months

Friday 20th March
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Opapayer said:
Risky job, car, postcode or lots of points?

I m like others and nearing 60, NCD does very little to my quotes for a sensible car.
  • 56 years old
  • Liverpool postcode, parked on street
  • SDPC+business use
  • 30k miles a year (split unevenly between the 2 cars)
  • Project Management roles all over the country/continent
  • 3 points (expire in August)
First car is a 20 year old, modified BMW Z4MC
Second car is a 10 year old, unmodified BMW 335xD Touring

Opapayer

1,288 posts

9 months

Friday 20th March
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mmm-five said:
  • 56 years old
  • Liverpool postcode, parked on street
  • SDPC+business use
  • 30k miles a year (split unevenly between the 2 cars)
  • Project Management roles all over the country/continent
  • 3 points (expire in August)
First car is a 20 year old, modified BMW Z4MC
Second car is a 10 year old, unmodified BMW 335xD Touring
Most of that goes against you, but not heavily. The L postcode will be destroying you. Run your details with a PR3 postcode. You might have a little cry afterwards.

pidsy

8,607 posts

181 months

Friday 20th March
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Just had my renewal through documents show 20 years NCD but it’s made no difference to anything in the last 10.

Did go down by £400 though so that’s a bonus.

Jeremy-75qq8

1,654 posts

116 months

Friday 20th March
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sixor8 said:
I can't understand that. I'm over 60 and ever since there's been online quoting (20 yrs plus ?), it has always made a difference for me.

The only time it doesn't if when you access the quote, it's a classic or specialist policy that doesn't use or provide NCD. Was it one of those? My 42 year old motorcycle for example makes no difference but its double on a 3 year-old one without 9 yrs NCD. You're not getting a quote on the same vehicle with or without it.

Similarly on cars, it is ALWAYS cheaper NCD, whatmt would be the point of ir otherwise? There are many other factors but if everything else is the same, NCD does make a difference for me.
No both cars are with admiral on multicar.


Biker 1

8,415 posts

143 months

Saturday 21st March
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I just renewed motorcycle insurance with a new company.
Very helpful & quick to answer the phone. They already seemed to know everything about me, make/model of bike, license details etc, yet they insisted on proof of NCB from previous insurers, who are a right pain to deal with: foreign call centres that put you on hold for eons etc.
Given the information apparently available to insurers from the database(s), I am amazed that proof of NCB is a requirement.