Parking camera catches you on foot

[HJG]

This is honestly the first I have ever heard of this happening. ANPR cameras monitoring both your car AND you and your passengers on foot.
Fined if you leave the area on foot even if you have shopped within the area.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4020lqe74o

[davek_964]

There is a car park locally here which is free, but next to a paid car park (both are for shopping areas).
The signs very clearly tell you that if you leave the area - i.e park there for free and then walk to the other shops - you will be fined.
Been like that for years.

[rpguk]

The McDonalds/Starbucks near Stanstead Airport was doing this years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/nov/10/park...

i.e if you park outside one and go into the other they'd give you a fine - presumably it was busy enough to make it worth while (and I bet a huge amount of people fined were in hire cars and paid automatically).

AI makes it viable to do this everywhere (and I'm sure it's the enforcement that's the hard part on this - loads of places have this in their terms already).

As a driver it's more ensttification, having to drive rather than walk between adjacent car parks to visit different shops would just lead me to go elsewhere.

The place I park at the local shopping area has a nominal charge of £1/hour and is kept well, clean, secure, always has space, autopay and just works. I chose it over the freeish carpark nextdoor that you have to watch the time on etc.

[Simpo Two]

HJG said:

This is honestly the first I have ever heard of this happening. ANPR cameras monitoring both your car AND you and your passengers on foot. Fined if you leave the area on foot even if you have shopped within the area.

I wonder when the march of surveillance is going to be stopped - or will we end up with cameras in our toilets charging us by length of turd, and fine us if we use more than three sheets of bog paper?

[Pica-Pica]

The bit I find odd is that even if a passenger goes off site, you get a oenalty charge.

[E-bmw]

Pica-Pica said:

The bit I find odd is that even if a passenger goes off site, you get a oenalty charge.

Because the car is parked at the "facility" that owns it & uses the parking but then persons from the car go elsewhere, pretty obvious as there was not only the driver in the car.

[Pica-Pica]

E-bmw said:

Pica-Pica said:

The bit I find odd is that even if a passenger goes off site, you get a oenalty charge.

Because the car is parked at the "facility" that owns it & uses the parking but then persons from the car go elsewhere, pretty obvious as there was not only the driver in the car.

The companies concept may be 'pretty obvious' to them. Nevertheless it's still odd that you can't make just one single journey for multi purposes, even if you shop at that site. I would like to see it tested in court

[wibble cb]

Drivers have been subject to this kind of rule for a long time, I wonder how enforceable it would be against passengers, surely they don’t form any kind of contract by entering the site, who as a passenger does this?

[snuffy]

Ive wondered about this if say you park in a supermarket carpark, do your shopping, then toddle off elsewhere.

In a similar way, my dentist has a carpark, and its only a few minutes walk into town. On occasion, having been to see him, ive then asked if its OK to leave my car in his car park for say an hour if I want to go into town. Seems only polite.

[Yellow Lizud]

So the driver drives into area A, parks in area A and goes into a couple of shops in area A and buys what they need. While the passenger pops over to Area B to buy something not available in any of the shops in area A.
Sensible and Logical - apparently not. The fine is in the post.

It's just fking madness, and they wonder why all the shops are shutting up and every one buys everything online.

[BertBert]

Be interesting to see how the cameras work. Also is the driver responsible for the actions of the pax to be held accountable for them? Feels like a stretch.

[CMTMB]

I actually don't have a massive problem with a lot of these restrictions, they don't always get it right but they stop people taking the piss and maximise spaces for the business.... but I'd like to see LARGE signs around the carpark making it very obvious. Otherwise it always just seems like profiteering.

[HJG]

And what happens if I were to go into a shop and come out wearing totally different clothes (à la Mr Benn).
Would the camera know?

[davek_964]

Yellow Lizud said:

So the driver drives into area A, parks in area A and goes into a couple of shops in area A and buys what they need. While the passenger pops over to Area B to buy something not available in any of the shops in area A.
Sensible and Logical - apparently not. The fine is in the post.

It's just fking madness, and they wonder why all the shops are shutting up and every one buys everything online.

But if you know you're going to do that, you simply park in the paid car park B. They don't care where you go (at least, in the local one I mentioned that's the case).

[E-bmw]

HJG said:

And what happens if I were to go into a shop and come out wearing totally different clothes (à la Mr Benn).
Would the camera know?

It wouldn't if you changed your face also.

[Panamax]

One imagines an umbrella of some kind should cover the necessary ground.

[Yellow Lizud]

davek_964 said:

Yellow Lizud said:

So the driver drives into area A, parks in area A and goes into a couple of shops in area A and buys what they need. While the passenger pops over to Area B to buy something not available in any of the shops in area A.
Sensible and Logical - apparently not. The fine is in the post.

It's just fking madness, and they wonder why all the shops are shutting up and every one buys everything online.

But if you know you're going to do that, you simply park in the paid car park B. They don't care where you go (at least, in the local one I mentioned that's the case).

I was referring to 2 paid car parks, with the same rules.
Also, how do I know, as the driver, what the passenger is going to do.

[mmm-five]

8m:20s on shows one option to getting around if

[chrisman]

What if you're just dropping somebody off while you go shopping?

If I'm heading into a town supermarket my daughter will often get a lift into town with me to meet her friends and save catching the bus.

I park in the supermarket carpark and go shopping , she goes off to meet her friends, would that result in a fine? I would just shop somewhere else which didn't have such ridiculous rules.

[HJG]

Yes as above - what happens if the passenger goes off-site and does not return?