"Should" I have paid for parking here?
"Should" I have paid for parking here?
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Somewhatfoolish

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4,999 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th May
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Stayed at the Holiday Inn in Bloomsbury for 4 days. Parking charge £112.

From my reading of the notices I'd have to pay £100 discounted to £60 if paid quickly if I simply didn't pay.

Now I'm expensing my parking and I can't expense "fines" (I appreciate that technically the 100/60 is not technically a fine, I am using the word in its non anal sense) so I'm fine with that. But had I been staying myself in the unlikely event I'd decided to drive in to central London for leisure would I maybe have been better off just waiting for said "fine" invoice and paying up immediately? Or is there some way they'd have "done" me for more?

Countdown

48,239 posts

222 months

Saturday 30th May
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Wouldn’t you have had 4x£100/ £60 fines (1 fine for each day that you stayed?)

Somewhatfoolish

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4,999 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th May
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Countdown said:
Wouldn t you have had 4x£100/ £60 fines (1 fine for each day that you stayed?)
Didn't see anything in the wording that suggested that but annoyingly I didn't take a photo and I can't find the T&C online. So it's possible but I don't think so.

Countdown

48,239 posts

222 months

Saturday 30th May
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ISTR cars parked on DYLs having multiple yellow parking fines on the windscreen. If it was going to be just the one fine for multiple days then it would work out cheaper than most NCP car parks.

Plus4Four#

192 posts

7 months

Saturday 30th May
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Look at this.
https://www.holidayinn.com/hotels/gb/en/london/lon...
Gives details of parking available.
Basically you pre-book or pay when arriving.
Did you do this?

LosingGrip

8,731 posts

185 months

Saturday 30th May
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Im in a Holiday Inn currently and had to put my VRM into a computer at the start.

carl_w

10,585 posts

284 months

BertBert

21,051 posts

237 months

Saturday 30th May
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Didn't see anything in the wording that suggested that but annoyingly I didn't take a photo and I can't find the T&C online. So it's possible but I don't think so.
I bet the terms are silent on the matter of multiple days and not paying. Without them though it's impossible to know!

Plus4Four#

192 posts

7 months

Saturday 30th May
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A couple of years ago I booked a night at a Cardiff City centre hotel for a concert gig.They wanted £18 to park overnight.
My son lived in Cardiff so parked at his house ( didn't stay with him as didn't want to disturb them ( baby was ill at the time)). He drove us to the hotel. Next day got a taxi back for £8.
Parking is getting to be monetised by a lot of venues. Luckily most I go to just require car reg logging for customers. Good idea.

Somewhatfoolish

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4,999 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th May
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BertBert said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Didn't see anything in the wording that suggested that but annoyingly I didn't take a photo and I can't find the T&C online. So it's possible but I don't think so.
I bet the terms are silent on the matter of multiple days and not paying. Without them though it's impossible to know!
Yup, was just hoping someone would know. As I said it's expensed so the only rational thing for me to do was pay but if I were paying myself I really do think it would have been better to just not pay...

The parking subcontractor is YourParkingSpace if that makes any difference for anyone knowing.

Cyberprog

2,313 posts

209 months

Monday 1st June
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Stayed at the Holiday Inn in Bloomsbury for 4 days. Parking charge £112.

From my reading of the notices I'd have to pay £100 discounted to £60 if paid quickly if I simply didn't pay.

Now I'm expensing my parking and I can't expense "fines" (I appreciate that technically the 100/60 is not technically a fine, I am using the word in its non anal sense) so I'm fine with that. But had I been staying myself in the unlikely event I'd decided to drive in to central London for leisure would I maybe have been better off just waiting for said "fine" invoice and paying up immediately? Or is there some way they'd have "done" me for more?
Yes, but it's not a fine, it's an invoice for your parking wink If it was from a statutory body then it would be a fine!

Panamax

8,834 posts

60 months

Monday 1st June
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[quote=Plus4Four#]Parking is getting to be monetised by a lot of venues.
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And if you want 24hrs in Brighton the rate is going to be somewhere between £25 and £40.

havoc

32,993 posts

261 months

Monday 1st June
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Panamax said:
And if you want 24hrs in Brighton the rate is going to be somewhere between £25 and £40.
Another good reason not to visit Brighton.

I can only assume that all these Councillors live in another country - one where public transport is affordable, frequent, reliable and convenient. Because (despite the state of our roads - congestion, potholes and stty driving standard) outside of London and Birmingham there's nowhere in the country where I'd choose to travel by train/bus rather than drive.

Carrot/stick only works if there's some carrot...

snuffy

12,779 posts

310 months

Monday 1st June
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Cyberprog said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Stayed at the Holiday Inn in Bloomsbury for 4 days. Parking charge £112.

From my reading of the notices I'd have to pay £100 discounted to £60 if paid quickly if I simply didn't pay.

Now I'm expensing my parking and I can't expense "fines" (I appreciate that technically the 100/60 is not technically a fine, I am using the word in its non anal sense) so I'm fine with that. But had I been staying myself in the unlikely event I'd decided to drive in to central London for leisure would I maybe have been better off just waiting for said "fine" invoice and paying up immediately? Or is there some way they'd have "done" me for more?
Yes, but it's not a fine, it's an invoice for your parking wink If it was from a statutory body then it would be a fine!
Which is exactly what he said.

vikingaero

12,706 posts

195 months

Wednesday 3rd June
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havoc said:
Panamax said:
And if you want 24hrs in Brighton the rate is going to be somewhere between £25 and £40.
Another good reason not to visit Brighton.

I can only assume that all these Councillors live in another country - one where public transport is affordable, frequent, reliable and convenient. Because (despite the state of our roads - congestion, potholes and stty driving standard) outside of London and Birmingham there's nowhere in the country where I'd choose to travel by train/bus rather than drive.

Carrot/stick only works if there's some carrot...
If this helps anyone, my go to place for parking is RCP Parking on North Road which is halfway between the station and the seafront. If you arrive before 9am and leave before midnight, it is just £10. Car park is a little old and decrepit, some aroma of pish, a few larger golden spaces at the ends etc.

QBee

22,273 posts

170 months

Countdown said:
ISTR cars parked on DYLs having multiple yellow parking fines on the windscreen. If it was going to be just the one fine for multiple days then it would work out cheaper than most NCP car parks.
I worked in Newman Street, just off Oxford Street in Central London, for a year or so in 1984.
I had a lovely view out the back windows of my office into Newman Passage, where I spotted the wonky lampost from the end titles of Minder, much to my surprise. It's not there any more, sadly.

My boss used to drive his Mercedes 500 convertible in from Hampstead every morning and just park it on the yellow lines outside the office front door for the day.
4 days out of 5 he got a parking ticket.
I asked him why he did it, to which he responded that the NCP, which was a stiff walk away, was actually more expensive, so why bother?

speedking31

3,847 posts

162 months

Somewhatfoolish said:
Countdown said:
Wouldn t you have had 4x£100/ £60 fines (1 fine for each day that you stayed?)
Didn't see anything in the wording that suggested that but annoyingly I didn't take a photo and I can't find the T&C online. So it's possible but I don't think so.
As it's an invoice, not a fine, then I would think that you could be invoiced for n times the maximum stay. If that's 24 hours then 4 No. invoices. However, IIRC the £100 is not just the loss that the parking company has 'suffered' but also an allowance for the cost of processing, delivering, debt collection, etc. Therefore maybe you would qualify for a discount as they have only had to do those things once, not four times silly

Will you be able to claim your expenses if you haven't paid and therefore don't have a receipt?