SORN not received by DVLA
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I sent in a SORN declaration in October for my Dolly Sprint to the monkeys in Swansea. Have received a nice fine through the post today for not doing so. Obviously I'm going to ring them tomorrow and tell them that I sent in the declaration - what's the likelihood that they will waive the fine? Surely everyone who gets a fine tries the "I sent the form in, must be lost in the post" line?? Ironically the car has not turned a wheel in the last 6 months as it's in pieces
Also, was some sort of legislation passed to make the lack of a tax disc or SORN an offence? If not, how can they fine someone when there's no proof whatsoever of use of an un-taxed vehicle on the road?
Also, was some sort of legislation passed to make the lack of a tax disc or SORN an offence? If not, how can they fine someone when there's no proof whatsoever of use of an un-taxed vehicle on the road?
victormeldrew said:
I can't imagine they'll accept loist on post as an reason, unless you have proof of postage.
I doubt it too. I know they state "if you haven't heard from us in 4 weeks then contact us immediately" - it just annoys me that the onus is once again on the motorist to prove his innocence, they just sit there and collect the fines.
john57 said:That applies to pretty much any government agency to be honest.
I always send everything to the DVLA by recorded delivery - I have absolutely no faith in them at all.
I spent Friday hand delivering tax documents to the Inland Revenue. Recorded delivery is good, but the thought of any detailed financial information going astray in the post send shivers down my spine.
john57 said:
I always send everything to the DVLA by recorded delivery - I have absolutely no faith in them at all.
DVLA
Revenue
Customs and Excise
I you don't want them to claim they didn't get it you need recorded delivery, a name, and a signature. And even then I've heard the "he doesn't work in this office..." line. My
. Don said:
john57 said:
I always send everything to the DVLA by recorded delivery - I have absolutely no faith in them at all.
DVLA
Revenue
Customs and Excise
I you don't want them to claim they didn't get it you need recorded delivery, a name, and a signature. And even then I've heard the "he doesn't work in this office..." line. My.
Said this before and say it again.
Hand delivery to Revenue et al doesn't work. We've hand delivered stuff to the local office and had an absolute flat denial they ever received it despite signatures on our "despatch" note.
Then they had the audacity to want to impose fines for not doing the paperwork which they'd lost. Eventually they stuck that one where the sun doesn't shine BUT (and its a huge J-Lo sized but) the resultant fall out from the souring of relations can be.. well... interesting.
Recorded delivery is OK as far as it goes in that assuming it is delivered you do get some sort of independant third party receipt at both ends of the chain. Trouble is recorded delivery is only recorded at each end, otherwise just gets stuck in the mail with the normal post and can and frequently does get lost.
Special Delivery only way to go imho.
Miniman,
I also sent the DVLA my SORN in mind October and recieved an £80 for failing to relicence my car. I phoned the DVLA and they asked me to write to them explaining that I had sent the SORN. I did so and they waived the fine and apologised.
I think that the DVLA may have had a rather large amount of mail go missing in Oct as the lady on the phone was not surprised when I said that I had already sent my SORN and that they had no trace of it....
I also sent the DVLA my SORN in mind October and recieved an £80 for failing to relicence my car. I phoned the DVLA and they asked me to write to them explaining that I had sent the SORN. I did so and they waived the fine and apologised.
I think that the DVLA may have had a rather large amount of mail go missing in Oct as the lady on the phone was not surprised when I said that I had already sent my SORN and that they had no trace of it....
victormeldrew said:
It's way easier to do it on-line anyway.
You bugger...you made my ribs ache there....
Do it online...?
To the DVLA...?
Are you mad......?
Holy kipper, they can't get manual records right between two staff standing 10 feet apart in the same office....
And you think DVLA techy stuff will work....?
Oh, god, me ribs....me ribs......stop it

miniman said:
victormeldrew said:
I can't imagine they'll accept loist on post as an reason, unless you have proof of postage.
I doubt it too. I know they state "if you haven't heard from us in 4 weeks then contact us immediately" - it just annoys me that the onus is once again on the motorist to prove his innocence, they just sit there and collect the fines.
My SORN notice took over 2 months to turn-up!
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Fine waived via apologetic letter from DVLA.